The whole world is in a vicious circle! It also reveals if blocking is not the solution, what is



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BELGRADE – The main problem with the crown is that it requires our attention 24 hours a day, seven days a week. And choose the ones who lose attention. And that has nothing to do with education, socioeconomic status, occupation … And time passes and it is difficult for us to continue acting responsibly – says the epidemiologist professor in an interview with Kurir. Dr. Darija Kisić Tepavčević, Minister of Labor, Employment, Veterans and Social Affairs.

Will we live with the crown for life?

The first professional and scientific considerations were that there is not a great capacity for antigenic mutations. However, time has denied us. Now we have a powerful weapon: a vaccine. We hope to deal with this virus like the flu.

So when will we achieve herd immunity?

The 70% level of the immune system is mentioned as a percentage after which sporadic cases will occur and where we obtain a result without spikes or recurrences.

When will we get to that 70 percent?

Experts monitor and research how long immunity lasts after illness and after vaccination. Preliminary research shows that 5 to 6 percent of those who are now sick get sick a second and even a third time. But that’s not the rule, which still tells us that the crown leaves a certain degree of immunity. It is estimated that with complete vaccination, between 1.5 and two million people will have a starting point for the level of immunity that would protect us from the epidemiological spread of the disease.

Darija Kisić Tepavčević
photo: Nemanja Nikolić

But now we also have mutated strains.

Vaccines cover, in most cases, all new strains. However, some of them are spreading more rapidly and a higher degree of herd immunity is needed to prevent the epidemic from spreading the disease. For example, for the smallpox virus, which is the easiest to transmit, and the same drop as the corona, it is 95 percent. The easier the virus is transmitted, the greater the degree of herd immunity.

Do British and South African strains need more than 90 percent of the immune system for herd immunity?

We are awaiting the results of the investigation, but it is realistic. Both the professional and scientific public are beginning to push the limits of the required level of herd immunity. Are we defeated? After a year, we are in even bigger trouble. We are not defeated, but there are great challenges ahead of all. It is not a relief to us that this is the case in all parts of the world. But it takes a long time and we don’t know how long it will last. Israel introduced a complete shutdown in December, people could only move within a 1,000m radius from their home, and generally they started with vaccines and are the first in the world. And again they have more than 4,000 infected a day.

Better at one point

There are no more radical mistakes

Where is the biggest mistake this year? I don’t see more radical mistakes. For every decision we thought of at the time it was the best.

If blocking is not the solution, what is?

The correct solution is for all people to understand that they are a key link in the transmission of the virus and that they are all guardians of their own health and, therefore, of the health of all of us. It is important that each of us respect the measures that are taken.

Darija Kisić Tepavčević
photo: Nemanja Nikolić

Are we in a vicious circle?

Not just us, the whole world is in a vicious circle. The vaccine is the most powerful tool and we have it. Together with the vaccine and our responsible behavior, we will defeat the virus.

Now, a politician against locks and for the economy is talking about you, and not a doctor who spoke otherwise in March 2020.

In March 2020, it was exclusively a health problem.

And how is it not today?

Even today, the issue of health is paramount, however, this situation continues and other segments must be considered. It is clear that you must have the money to be able to get vaccines, medicines and respirators.

Not at the cost of a dozen lives a day?

Absolutely not at the cost of life, health is a priority for all of us. But if you take certain measures to make a facility work, it does not mean that someone has hired you to go there, but only if you have the needs and under strictly prescribed rules. Everything is very simple. Singapore, which has a population somewhat smaller than ours, has several cases a day, most imported, and only general preventive measures are in effect.

Function

And as a minister, I do my job

When he became a minister, there were also comments that he sat in an armchair in the middle of the most difficult fight with the crown.

At no point did I stop doing the work I had until then. The ministry is also in charge of gerontology centers, social protection institutions, whose users are the most vulnerable to this virus. I am here as on my own ground. Instead, whatever work is done, at this point everything must be seen through the prism of the crown.

It is a different culture.

Yes, wearing a mask is an everyday thing for them for many years, even before the crown. But they show how they can do it, so that we could be brave, persevering, and worthy people. The closure does not yield significant results. We return to the fact that everything depends on us.

But we have more than 4,000 infected a day. See also how many we have tested. And compare the data with some of the environment. Romania, like us, had 4,000 infected the other day, but also more than 100 dead. In terms of mortality – the number of deaths in relation to the number of infected and the death rate – the number of deaths per 100,000 inhabitants, we are among the countries with the lowest number of deaths. And that is no accident.

Dr. Kon has already calculated that there were more deaths from the crown in Belgrade than reported.

All problems from the beginning have been fixed, the base is already an outdated topic. All data is up-to-date and available. And the notion of excess mortality did not come with kovid. It is often attributed to the flu in winter, especially in the United States. It is estimated that up to 600,000 people die from the flu in the United States each year. Thus, for the crown, one of the indicators worldwide will be excess mortality.

(Kurir.rs/JSSpasić)


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