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A little over a month after saying that the economic consequences of the pandemic would be greater than the deaths of Covid-19, the businessman from Paraná, Junior Durski, owner of the Madero restaurant chain, is in favor of releasing beds from private hospitals. to serve the SUS.
“Everyone should help themselves. Everyone should make the effort and participate. This is humanitarian. You cannot let someone die because they do not have money to pay in a pandemic. I am not saying that they become a socialist for the rest of their life, “he said. the businessman to the Painel SA column.
In late March, when he raised the controversy on social media, Durski said the country could not stop due to between 5,000 and 7,000 deaths, an estimate that has become a reality in recent days. The businessman still defends his concern about the direction of the economy and says he has difficulties expressing himself.
“I don’t know how to put a period or a comma in sentences, I have a hard time getting people to understand me. It is not easy when I speak. My wife should translate for people. Then I would not have a misunderstanding,” he says.
Durski says a friend recently asked him if he would change positions if one of his daughters died of the disease. The answer was that he trusts God and statistics.
The businessman says restaurant sales account for 15-20% of what it was before the pandemic and that delivery has helped insure the cashier, without having to go to banks yet.
Politically, in recent days, he evaluated Bolsonaro’s “and what” about the Brazilian victims of the coronavirus as a reflection of the president’s difficulty in expressing himself, like him. Sergio Moro’s departure from the government was sad in the businessman’s opinion, but the minister “got burned” when he spoke ill of his work, he says. If he worked in the private sector, Moro would lose opportunities to work in the future, says Durski.
His name was evident at the beginning of the pandemic. How is the stage today? Okay, within the bad, the possible. We are playing, delivering, working with restaurants where they are allowed to open. Here in the south they are all open, in Curitiba, Florianópolis, Balneário Camboriú, Porto Alegre.
How is the movement where Returned? Very low. We are there with 40%, of which 25% is delivered. At the table, we are more or less between 15% and 20% of what it was.
And is it still worth opening? Some say that it is better to stay closed? There is an issue for everyone. Today, in the 200 restaurants, we are closing the month of April with 29.5% of what should be done in our original projection, which was R $ 120 million. We will make R $ 35 million. Of course, it helps because you already have employees, half of the rent you have to pay is open or closed. Anyway, you defend yourself in some way. I don’t think zero is better than 30%. And everything that is done now will be for later. We are expanding the delivery that we did not have. And today, 25% of our income, which should be the original, we have already delivered. With that, it was more or less as if we had stopped all the restaurants to dedicate ourselves exclusively to delivery. And it will continue after the pandemic. It may not be 25% because people will leave the house, but it will be 15% or 10%. And it will be sensational in the future, a great profit. It is worth it. The marks must be remembered. If the restaurant is closed for a long time, you can forget it.
Has Madero spoken to the banks, needed a loan in the pandemic? We have a good and reasonable cash flow, we have managed it well. And we’ve been talking to the banks in case we need it. No one knows when it will return, when it will end. For the next few months, we have cash to hold.
Here in São Paulo they say again that it will not be possible to relax the quarantine from May 10 because external conditions are not favorable. In your opinion, the ideal is to open? No. I don’t think it’s really open. I think Brazil is a continental country. Here in the south it is already open. If there is going to be a peak, let it be soon, because we are going to enter the winter. I am not a scientist, I am not a doctor, but I have lived here for 57 years. Today I went to the doctor and he told me that in July, in his hospital, the demand generally increases by 30%. Here in Curitiba, for example, 10% of the capacity of the private network is not being used.
What do you think of the idea of transferring private beds to SUS to care for patients with coronavirus? I think it’s great. Everyone has to help themselves. Everyone has to make the effort and participate. This is humanitarian. You can’t let someone die because you don’t have money to pay in a pandemic. I’m not saying you become a socialist for the rest of your life. This is not our regime, but there are places where it is difficult. I know Manaus, Belém very well, I lived in the north for 15 years. Sanitation there is very difficult, there is open sewage. Get Stronghold. There was Carnival, there are many flights to Italy. There was a different flow there. Each region needs to be treated according to its hospital capacity.
That statement of his last month, which sparked controversy, said the country could not stop 5,000 to 7,000 deaths. We reached that level. Do you think we got there fast? Didn’t you think at the time that we would reach that number? What do you see now when comparing the scenarios? What I meant by looking at what was happening in Italy, in China, in France, is that people with coronaviruses would inevitably die all over the world. In Brazil there was talk, and I do not calculate anything, that between 5,000 and 7,000 people should die. That’s what I said. But since I don’t know how to put a period or a comma in sentences, I find it hard to make people understand me. It is not easy when I speak. My wife should translate for people. There would be no misunderstanding. But people would inevitably die. What I meant is that you have to make sure that many more people don’t die after hunger, unemployment, violence, lack of security, traffic accidents, because people will not have money to change tires. He would have to dose the medicine with the effect. What you have to dose is this.
We have passed 5,000 deaths, the bottom of your expectations. What does it say Unfortunately I was talking to a smart friend of mine, and he says he has to shut everything down, do a total lock. And I advocate opening as much as possible, with insulation for those at risk. All right. He said to me, “Junior, you have four daughters. It won’t happen, but what if your daughter died of coronavirus? Would you change position? I said, ‘Look, it wouldn’t change at all because I believe in statistics and in God. I have four daughters, the eldest is 30 years old. The probability that he will die of coronavirus, considering the numbers, is 500 times less than dying from a car accident or violent death, robbery assault. “If I didn’t factor in the probability, I might be concerned. But I take it. Everything is Mathematical for me. And I really believe in God.
What do you think of the political situation in the country since last week with the departure of Sergio Moro from the government? At first I was very sad, very sad. I always admired Sergio Moro a lot. I always thought that the guy was the bravest and he contributed a lot to Brazil. On the other hand, I never saw an executive leave the company speaking badly and getting along in life. He had a chance to come out with a wonderful resume, and his boss would continue to refer him for the rest of his life. If the guy leaves the company cursing, bad-mouthing and blaming the firing on the boss, this executive gets burned and nobody wants this guy to work any more.
Sergio Moro received invitations later. Is the analogy with politics complicated? I know it is complicated because in politics it is not a cold analysis. The other governor wants to be able to harm or confront the president. But in any case, I would have left with: “Thank you very much, I did my part, goodbye.”
How did you like the line “So what?” From Bolsonaro on the deaths of the pandemic? I, in particular, will speak for myself, I have a lot of difficulties expressing myself and letting people understand me. I don’t use s, I don’t know a period or a comma. I am talking about emotion because I am very emotional. It is not easy if the person does not know me. She plays me completely different. I think that in Bolsonaro’s case it is more or less the same. He gets into emotion and speaks badly like me. If I analyze it by myself, I think he has a hard time speaking handsome, speaking easily. I still think that the press does not make things easier for men, nor for the press. It is a relationship that is not easy. I imagine that both parts have difficulties to understand each other.
