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The hacker Walter Delgatti Neto, responsible for accessing messages exchanged between prosecutors of the Republic of Paraná and former judge Sergio Moro, said that one of the objectives of the “lava jet” in Curitiba was to arrest the ministers Gilmar Mendes and Dias Toffoli , of the Supreme Court. Federal court. The statement was made this Sunday (12/20), in an interview broadcast by CNN Brazil, whose content spells had anticipated.
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Delgatti was asked if he thought the “car wash” wanted to arrest members of the Supreme Court. “They wanted to. I don’t think so, they did. Including Gilmar Mendes and Dias Toffoli. They tried everything to get to Gilmar Mendes and Toffoli, they tried to say that Toffoli tried to renovate the apartment and they wanted the OAS to denounce Toffoli.” “, answered.
Still, according to him, prosecutors “broke Gilmar Mendes’ secret in Switzerland, his credit card, his bank account, they hated Gilmar Mendes, they spoke ill of Gilmar Mendes all the time.”
Report published by the newspaper The country, in alliance with The Intercept Brazil, had already said that prosecutors planned to seek evidence in Switzerland against Gilmar. According to the news, the MPF members intended to use the case of Paulo Preto, a PSDB operator arrested in a “lava jet” display, to gather ammunition against the minister.
At no point did they mention the fact that first-degree prosecutors are unable to investigate – or even mention in the indictments – Supreme Court ministers.
In addition to mentioning Gilmar and Toffoli, the hacker made statements about Luís Roberto Barroso. According to Delgatti, Barroso and lawyer Deltan Dallagnol, former coordinator of the “lava jet” working group in Curitiba, were very close. The STF minister would have come to help Dallagnol in the cases.
“Barroso and Deltan talked a lot. In fact, Barroso, in conversations, helped what to put into play, what to say. A judge also helps what a prosecutor should do,” he said.
In response to CNN The minister categorically denied the accusations and stressed that he does not judge the processes of the lava jets, which are in charge of the 2nd Panel of the Supreme Court.
Delgatti also mentions Alexandre de Moraes, but only to say that he never managed to discover anything on the minister’s cell phones. “He deleted everything. I also had access to his email. I just downloaded the book to read it. I had email conversations, but it was between them [ministros do STF]. It was talking about process, which was of no interest. It was a formal conversation. ”
In June 2019, the website The Intercept Brazil began publishing conversations between MPF prosecutors in Curitiba and Moro. The messages showed that Moro even guided the prosecutors’ actions in the lawsuits.
“I ended up disappointed”
A CNN and Delgatti negotiated the interview for about a year until it happened. In the conversation, the hacker stated that he began to hack into teams of Bolsonaro family officials.
Then he tried to get into Alexandre’s cell phone. Having achieved nothing, he went to Dallagnol when he saw the prosecutor talking about the package of ten anti-corruption measures.
“The ‘car wash’ was the last place I expected to find irregularities. [Dallagnol] presented that package of ten anti-corruption measures. When I saw his name, I wanted to access his account and see who was committing crimes. But when I got access, I ended up disappointed. Because I saw crime happen between them [procuradores]”, said.
From then on, he sought journalists to make the talks public. He said that no professional from the press responded. It was then after the former deputy Manuela D’Ávila (PCdoB), who would have been interested in the material and made the bridge between Delgatti and the journalist Glenn Greenwald, from Interception.
Finally, the hacker said he was pressured to report when he was arrested in 2019 in the course of the spoofing operation. “I was under pressure the whole time. Since the first day. The deputy said: ‘Look, make a complaint, tell the truth, let’s clarify that I let you go.’ They gave me to understand that the complaint, if I did, would only be approved if it spoke of Glenn. They always wanted me to talk about Glenn, “he concluded.
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