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Gloria Pires does not talk about politics, this is the premise of her advisor before the interview begins. He also does not give details about the work he did and about which he regretted. And do not comment on the behavior of others. All this, warns one of the greatest actresses in Brazil, is a consequence of the feat of learning to say no. Thanks to him, you can better set your limits today, even in your own home.
If maturity brought difficulty sleeping and gray hair (assumed, despite family protests), it also brought more freedom to show what he really is like. It’s not that getting old is easy. “But it’s easier when you accept this condition,” he says. During the confinement, the actress even dyed the strings for an advertising campaign. Then he returned to natural. “I feel good, beautiful, empowered.” It was also during the quarantine that the actress returned to live with the whole family at home: her husband, the singer Orlando Morais, four children (Cleo, Antonia, Ana and Bento) and the cat Garfield. “We went to the house in Brasilia thinking of spending a month or two and we stayed for six,” he recalls. “Along with the fright, with the expectation, with the fear, I had moments of great pleasure, of being with the family without having to go out, travel, take a vacation.”
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But not everything was walks around Lake Paranoá. The intense coexistence brought difficulties. “As before, I was always working, I delegated a lot. When thunderstorms occurred, they were rarely together, ”he says. “Acting in those moments, looking for the right word, the right attitude in the midst of the storm, was a huge learning experience.” Sometimes the right attitude was to set limits, to say “no.” And can Gloria cite an episode where this happened? “I can not”, he replies laughing and, once again, exercising the “no”.
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On television since she was 8 years old, when little Fatima lived in the telenovela “Selva de pedra”, Gloria is learning to assume roles that go beyond that of an actress. He produced the film “A Suspicion”, whose premiere was postponed due to the pandemic. And she works as an entrepreneur at Bemglô, a brand launched in 2014 with Orlando and her friend Betty Prado. Initially inspired by Goop, by actress Gwyneth Paltrow, Bemglô offers a selection of products from different areas, with a focus on conscious consumption. It has a physical store in Oscar Freire, in São Paulo, and works on the expansion of electronic commerce to Portugal. Another novelty is a collection, launched this month, in collaboration with the Suntime brand. They are garments made with sustainable fabrics, with optimism in the printed phrases – “Glorious days”, “Green days will come” and “We live days women.” Gloria participated in the choice of fabrics, colors, shapes, messages. “I wanted it to be clothes that could be worn at home, but also, with a different production, to work, go out, have fun.”
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Below are some highlights from the conversation.
Quarantine
“It was something new to have my husband and four children in my house. The best part was being with them. Two daughters already lived alone, there was this return. And Orlando is a person who travels a lot. So, as a couple, we also had to make adjustments. I am a person who loves freedom, but I believe that limitations bring lessons. I feel like I learned a lot of things. One of them was to take my place as the owner of the house and mother of that family. In the daily offer “.
Post-pandemic world
“Simple things, like a hug or a kiss, have gained another weight. I met my sister again, we had not seen each other for six months and I hugged her. I had auditioned for a job and so had she. It was a relief “.
Verder
“This idea that the human being is the boss and money can bring us all here, with good things, but with this heavy bar that we are seeing: unbearable air, polluted waters. But I hope for good news soon. People will understand that this is not being a hippie. There is no plan B for a planet. I have great faith that people will understand that it is important for the population to act in politics, in choosing who will be in front of us. Advertising someone, I don’t. I support the work that I consider important, good practices ”.
White hair
“I have wanted to turn my hair white for a long time. But in the last novel, ‘We were six’, as 30 years have passed in history, it would be complicated: the consensus was that I should dye my hair and do the whites according to continuity. When it was over, I said, ‘Now I’m going.’ Everyone was against it, the husband, the children. But I stayed. And I love it. I feel good, beautiful, empowered. ”
Aging
“The dream changes a lot. Sometimes I sleep better, sometimes I sleep worse: I treat myself with orthomolecular medicine, I take supplements, I do meditation. But it is a process. It is easier when you accept this condition. I lived 57 years, I have wrinkles, sagging, these hairs are mine. And it doesn’t make me suffer. When he was younger, he could have thought of this moment with greater difficulty. And my health is better now: I want to be healthy to enjoy my old age and everything I worked for. Menopause is going well. At first I was scared. But he is not suffering. “
Fashion conscious
“I am very happy that Bemglô’s first collaboration goes hand in hand with Suntime, through conscious fashion, which includes the reuse of textile waste and the search for a production with low environmental impact. We want to live ‘Glorious Days’ not only in clothing, but in our relationship with nature ”.
53 years of career
“I was lucky that they always offered me great projects. And on my part there was always a great willingness to work. There were some things I didn’t want to do, but I ended up doing them and it was very troublesome. OMG why did I come across this? I knew I wasn’t supposed to do … “
I’m not willing to
“Saying ‘no’ has always been a problem, but today it’s easier. Learning at home has also existed. The angel of the house that Virginia Woolf was talking about, I never realized he was around, but I realized in quarantine (In the British writer’s text, the angel is the specter of a compassionate, pure and disinterested woman, ready to sacrifice herself and sacrifice her will and opinions.). And that was important: understanding my limits. He could often say “yes” but needed to say “no”. And I did it. There are certain things that ‘I’m not up to’ (as the character of Beatriz from ‘Babilônia’ would say) “
Cleo
“I am very proud of your position. He has a lot of strength, and a lot of strength with young people. Is on a good path. I just want you to suffer less, to take these people less seriously, because what they want is a stage; since they cannot shine, they want to shine by detonating others. I hope she can get to this place of not suffering for these things, follow her path, set an example that she is this strong, empowered woman, who has an opinion and is not afraid. I applaud you. “
feminist family
“My mom was a feminist, my dad was too. There was never this question of the oppressed gender and the dominant gender at home. My father (Antonio Carlos Pires, actor) was a man who shared with my mother all the care of the children, with the house. She is my mother (Elza Pires, housewife) also played a lot with my father. They had an incredible partnership, which is what I always looked for. I married a man who is like that. We are a feminist family ”.
Marriage
“Marriage evolved with ups and downs, but always with a kind of certainty that she understands me, you know? It is my partner, it is not only the boyfriend who gives the surprise, the one who brings the flowers. Is much more. He is a person in whom I have confidence, freedom. For me, freedom is fundamental, and I think I have also been able to give it to him ”.
Sex
“I often say that sex is the same as breast milk. It is a business that starts in your head: how much you feel accepted, at ease, how much you want it and you feel wanted. It is a constructed thing. And my experience is that it gets better over time. It is much better with confidence, with freedom. Even to say, ‘I’m not in the mood. I’m not willing to ‘(Serie) “.