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Barack Obama for eight years he was the most powerful man in the world. Four years after leaving office, the former president of the United States launches “A promised land”, the first volume of his memories. In the program of Monday, 11/16, he talks to Pedro Bial over work, the pandemic, the victory of his old vice Joe biden in the US elections and the relationship with Brazil.
Among the subjects, Pedro Bial I wanted to know what Obama He thought of the provocations of the Brazilian president, Jair bolsonaro. By refuting a position of the Democrat Joe biden over the Amazon, Bolsonaro He stated that “when you run out of saliva, you have to have gunpowder.”
Obama compared the policies of the Brazilian president with those of Donald trump. In addressing the pandemic, for example, neither of them put an emphasis on science: “It had consequences for them.
He reinforced the central role of Brazil in the environmental issue: “Brazil was a leader in the past, it would be a shame if it stopped being so.”
“My hope is that, with the new Biden administration, there is an opportunity to redefine that relationship. I know that he will emphasize that climate change is real, that the United States and Brazil have a leadership role to play. I know he will make you appreciate. the science about Covid-19 and the fact that the virus is real. “
Barack Obama is the guest of ‘Conversa com Bial’ – Photo: Playback / TV Globo
Flávia Barbosa, executive editor of the newspaper O Globo that covered the entire second period of Obama, also participates in the interview. It is after Jornal da Globo.