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BRASILIA – In his testimony given this Saturday, the former Minister of Justice Sergio Moro told investigators that the President Jair Bolsonaro He threatened to fire him at a meeting of the federal government’s cabinet of ministers if Moro did not accept a new replacement for the superintendent of the Federal Police in Rio. According to Moro, this meeting took place on April 22 and was videotaped by the Presidency of the Republic. , which could prove his allegations that Bolsonaro attempted to carry out undue interference with the PF.
DialoguesMoro gave the PF talks of the last 15 days with Bolsonaro
This meeting of the council of ministers took place two days before Sergio Moro’s resignation. The former minister declared, in the testimony given to the PF and members of the Office of the Attorney General of the Nation (PGR), that Bolsonaro has made clear several times his interest in naming a person of his confidence in the FP Superintendency in Rio, but without explaining the reasons. According to him, this charge was presented to the other government ministers at this council meeting.
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At the same meeting, Bolsonaro reportedly expressed dissatisfaction with PF’s lack of access to intelligence information. In his testimony, Moro stated that the minister Augustus Helenus (Office of Institutional Security) disagreed with the president and said that these reports could not be provided. After his resignation, Bolsonaro himself had stated that he would post the video of his last meeting with Moro as a way to demonstrate that he was telling the truth, but the president has yet to post that video.
More than 8 hours of testimony.
Moro was heard for eight hours this Saturday in the Superintendency of the PF of Paraná, by investigators from the PF and the Office of the Attorney General (PGR) as part of an investigation opened by the Supreme Federal Court (STF) to investigate the charges that did against Bolsonaro. The investigation determines whether the president and also the former minister committed crimes in the episode.
The former justice minister also told PF that the president’s complaints were untrue and that he relayed non-confidential information to Bolsonaro about the outbreak of PF’s operations, but only after searches and arrests were completed.
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The day after that meeting of the council of ministers, Moro participated in a meeting with Bolsonaro at the Planalto Palace in which the president informed him that he had decided to remove the then director general Maurício Valeixo. It was this meeting that triggered the crisis that resulted in the resignation of the then Minister of Justice on April 24.
In the testimony, Moro told the FP that it would be up to Bolsonaro to explain the reasons behind the attempts to interfere with the FP and said he did not know the reasons. Upon testimony, Moro turned over his cell phone to the PF to extract copies of the conversations relevant to the investigation. The former minister, however, did not have old dialogues, for fear of being the target of new ones. hacker attacks. Therefore, the conversations delivered by Moro referred only to the last 15 days, when he had already accumulated friction with Bolsonaro and was under pressure to fire Valeixo.
In addition to the conversation with the president, the PF also copied the conversations held by Moro with the federal deputy. Carla Zambelli (PSL-SP), who tried to convince him to accept Valeixo’s resignation. The material will be examined by the PF.
One of the reasons for the delay in deposition was precisely the action taken to copy the data from his cell phone, which took a few hours. The FP made a previous analysis and considered that the conversations held by Moro with ministers of the Bolsonaro government did not have relevant information for the investigations, because they only dealt with government affairs, without interfering in the FP.
The testimony took place under a climate of tension due to protests that were taking place outside the PF. It was possible to hear, from within the PF, the screams and curses directed at the former minister, whom the Bolsonar militants called “traitor”. Moro proved to be “visibly shocked” compared to the times of the Lava-Jato judge, according to PF members who had known him since then and found him this Saturday.