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The head of the Neamț County Hospital Intensive Care Unit, Liviu Ungureanu, told the film about the Digi24 tragedy. He believes the fire started with an injection machine, and then the flame reached a nurse’s jumpsuit and from there to the beds. Medical personnel intervened with fire extinguishers in the room, but the flames were too strong.this.
Liviu Ungureanu, Head of ATI Piatra Neam condado County Hospital: We were busy in the first place, when we arrived and saw what was there, they were already transferring patients from the other room to the UPU, because the oxygen stopped when what happened was noticed, and then we quickly took everyone to the UPU, after which we turn to our colleague, in another sector of the UPU. We tried to stabilize him until he went to Iași, then, a little bit, at a time, well, to say quiet, I also asked him, I also asked the nurses: it was not, it is not a clear succession, who … of anyway, it turns out the two nurses were there at the time, it was 6:40, I think, I got the first phone call at 6:50, the two nurses were in the room, and the colleague was also getting ready for the Medium, I did not understand whether to intubate someone or place a central catheter. Then it exploded, apparently from an injectable, it quickly spread to the protective suits, protection for the virus, not for the fire, of the staff, of the nurse and from there, in a very short time, it spread with incredible speed. The other doctor on duty came in for the first time to get someone out, but he was injured, suffocated, suffocated, came out again and entered one by one, 4 fire extinguishers were used, but without success.
“Smoke, darkness, shortness of breath.” 4 fire extinguishers were used
Carla Tănasie, Digi24 journalist: So did these fire extinguishers exist and were they used?
Liviu Ungureanu: Sure, how could it not exist, I used our 3 and took another from Surgery or the operating room, I don’t know, another, but they couldn’t, it was practically generalized. The nurses came out, probably Cătălin, the doctor, he stayed behind and that’s why he burned more. He tried to put out the flames as soon as possible. Meanwhile, the fire department has come and that’s all I can tell you.
Carla Tănasie: Did the patients try to get him out of the room too?
Liviu Ungureanu: They tried but failed smoke, dark, hard to breathe and through these masks, but also in general in the smoke. And practically, even with the fire extinguishers, they worked beyond the door, until the first beds, there were 4 on one side, 4 on the other, they couldn’t go deeper and if they went in, I think they would stay there.
The fire allegedly started with an injection machine.
Carla Tănasie: Did the fire start with that injection machine?
Liviu Ungureanu: It seems so, although it is not known 100%, but the investigation will clarify.
Carla Tănasie: And the flame, from there, reached the team of a nurse?
Liviu Ungureanu: Yes, from there, beyond the bed, but it was so fast, monitor … And of course I also had a high oxygen concentration from so much oxygen therapy.
Why was the section moved from the third floor to the second floor?
Carla Tănasie: Last night it was discussed that this intensive care unit was moved from the 3rd floor to the 2nd floor. How did it happen?
Liviu Ungureanu: Our stage has always been on the 2nd floor, we did not have circuits in spring and then, when cases began to appear and we were no longer admitted to Iași, in 2-3 days we had to find a solution. We had two alternatives, or to extend to Surgery-Operating Room, or the 3rd floor, to Neurosurgery. I chose the second option for several reasons. Everything worked perfectly until the number of beds began to increase. When we reached the maximum capacity, upstairs, we had to think if it is not better to go back down, to us, where we had more beds grouped, 8 and 8, and we used human resources more efficiently, and the technician.
Carla Tănasie: This section was prepared in which you moved for such a high oxygen consumption, I mean the electrical installation …
Liviu Ungureanu: I was much better prepared than the upper section, because I set the upper section in spring at an intense pace. We consider an improvement in the quality of the medical act, unfortunately this misfortune happened.
“We were told to use the fire extinguisher”
Carla Tănasie: Were staff trained to intervene in such situations?
Liviu Ungureanu: They told us to use the extinguisher and I still don’t know, with the hydrant and … now … until the firefighters come, put your hand on the extinguisher, but this is true for a limited, localized fire … But here it spread throughout the room, at some point, I don’t know exactly when, spread across the room, everywhereSo you basically had nothing to do.
Carla Tănasie: When was the last time this training took place?
Liviu Ungureanu: It is done annually, I can’t tell you now.
Carla Tănasie: Who was in the room at the time of the fire? How many nurses?
Liviu Ungureanu: Two nurses and the doctor, Cătălin, who was preparing to do a maneuver.
Carla Tănasie: But did the nurses announce that it caught fire there?
Liviu Ungureanu: No. The nurses were inside, I think he just wanted to go in and he saw what was happening, he told them to come out, he tried to get him out there, on the bed, where it broke and of course his overalls caught fire. From the outside it was seen, from the oxygen, the oxygen stopped. They reached the next bathroom where they doused it with water.