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How many corpses are okay Ørjasæter ?, asked Pål T. Jørgensen in a furious post. You don’t understand the basic facts about covid-19 and mortality in Norway.
This is a comment. It is the attitude of the writer that is expressed.
Demographics, that is, population theory, is important in understanding the basics of the corona epidemic. Nettavisen journalists got it this spring.
Norwegians will die less in the 2020 crown year than in previous years, according to Statistics Norway. In Sweden, mortality increased in spring and decreased in autumn compared to a normal year. This latest Swedish submortality is probably due to the oldest and most fragile of them dying this spring, so they are “missing” in the death toll this fall.
We must die. In fact, we should have something like it for society to work. I think that just over 40,000 corpses a year is perfectly fine, to answer directly to Pål T. Jørgensen’s questions.
Also read: Pål T. Jørgensen: How many corpses are okay, Ørjasæter?
– I have hardly noticed this
Jørgensen refers to the dramatic conditions in Europe in his attack on the undersigned. He has barely understood why Norway has so few covid-deaths. We have a lot of good conditions at the bottom, which help us. This is what differentiates us from the rest of the measures, that is, basically, more than the measurements themselves.
Most important is Norway’s good standard of housing, that is, sparsely crowded living conditions and a geographically dispersed population. Add that we are a relatively young population, compared to many of the worst affected countries.
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We have low resistance to antibiotics. This means that the aftermath of covid-19, from which people die, can be treated by the vast majority. Additionally, we have a sick pay plan that allows most people to stay home when they cough, without squinting at their wallets.
In addition, we have authorities that function, among other things, by being open. But I mean they are now moving to the edge of wisdom. Situations that do not create a significant spread of the infection are closed. Companies that have done excellent infection control and facilitated good infection detection are now at risk of bankruptcy.
The rise in unemployment has significant human costs. The same happens with the total insecurity of companies and the experience of loneliness of young people. Getting the police to the door because you have company may be necessary, but it also has something to do with general trust in society.
Nowadays, it is the medicine against infections that sets the agenda. Tomorrow, it may be community medicine that brings the worst news. Balancing different considerations must be incredibly difficult, when all decisions are made under great uncertainty. Pål T. Jørgensen is more confident in his case than even the most highly trained medical researchers.
Also read: Elin Ørjasæter: Cinemas, concerts and theaters do not transmit infections, but are still closed
– A necessary part of a democracy
Jørgensen believes that it is fundamentally selfish to question the authorities’ actions. I think it is a necessary part of a democracy. Rules must be discussed, but everyone, including those who disagree, must follow them. I thought that was elementary.
Furthermore, Jørgensen describes in dramatic terms how bad it is to die from COVID-19. Ask a nursing home employee what it’s like to die, in general. Gasping for air is common. It is painful to die, often taking weeks when the dying person cannot absorb moisture or dryness, and when the patient’s breathing sounds excruciatingly painful.
Covid-19 is no exception. But the 300 dead that Jørgensen refers to have an average age of 84 years, most of the time they had underlying diseases and whether covid-19 or not suffered a painful death. Because it is very good to die of disease. Jørgensen didn’t know?
Here you can read more posts by Elin Ørjasæter.
Also read: Top of the event after the crisis package: – The Conservatives still haven’t given me a good reason to keep the membership
Violent bullying propaganda does not help anyone
The cruel thing about the countries he refers to is that many of the dead did not receive adequate medical care to prevent or alleviate death. Avoiding such an overload of the health system in Norway is an important justification for the measures that are implemented against the spread of the infection. But does this important goal mean that no action should ever be questioned?
Jørgensen is upset because I think some of the measures are “bragging”. (Here you are misquoting by stating that I. exclusively they think they are conceited. Accuracy is difficult when you’re pissed off.) Yes, I suspect that fear of not acting forcefully drives decisions more than icy reason in some cases.
It is debated around the world whether the cure (measures) now harms the patient (people) more than the disease. Of course, this should also be discussed in Norway.
Violent bullying propaganda, on the other hand, doesn’t help. Especially not when you are so removed from the harsh realities of life.
Here you can read more posts by Elin Ørjasæter.
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