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– I always go to the expert group.
Siv Jensen sits in the Storting office and interrupts the question of whether she was ever unsure whether she should continue two new years as party leader and four years as parliamentary representative.
– What happens in Siv Jensen’s group of experts?
– I have always said that I must have the commitment from above to be the leader of the Progress Party. The only period in which, as party leader, I have had a drop in commitment was in the months after the crown closed, says a sincere Jensen.
It wasn’t about the party, he emphasizes. It just wasn’t possible to do what Siv Jensen loved since he started in politics in the 90s.
– It was not possible to follow party policy. That was sad. When I finally resumed my travel business, the excitement returned in full force. I was finally able to travel and meet the elected officials. Meeting people, being an ombudsman, raising your issues, that’s what FRP is all about.
My God, you’re not going to stop this, I told myself.
Fossil friend
Ombudsman Jensen will talk about motorists, at least those who still want the opportunity to buy and drive a gasoline or diesel car after 2025.
It has been nine months since Jensen pulled the FRP out of the government and left the Granavolden platform where the FRP unanimously advocated the goal that “all new passenger cars must be zero-emission vehicles by 2025.”
Now the pipe has a different sound. The Storting group, led by Jensen, is in favor of the party defining two clear principles:
- No to the ban on the sale of gasoline, diesel and hybrid cars after 2025
- That people themselves can choose what type of car they want to buy. Car taxes will not be increased, but will be reduced for gasoline, diesel and hybrid cars.
– I think it is nice to set goals, but to be successful you must have the inhabitants with you. For many, the goal has become more important than safeguarding the interests of the inhabitants, says Jensen.
– It will probably be a disadvantage for those with long driving distances. The electric car market is not yet accessible to everyone due to its price and scope. I think it is a headless policy for everyone to drive an electric car in a country with mountains, long distances and cold in winter.
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Jensen sees more and more parties fighting to put real power between the goal of only zero-emission cars in 2025. Whether that’s increasing taxes on gasoline and diesel cars, or banning.
– Politicians can’t just hit bans and higher taxes. If you go as far as a ban on driving a fuel car, you classify people into an A team and a B team. I really didn’t think there were so many parties in Norway that would think that, says Jensen.
– Which parties want a ban on gasoline and diesel cars?
– The Center Party has come a long way. Work and ODM the same. The right is racing toward that kind of attitude.
“Completely unreal”
Jensen mentions the Downtown Party before the MDGs when he summarizes the car-hostile parties at the Storting. Center Party leader Trygve Slagsvold Vedum is at the forefront of consciousness after robbing FRP voters with both hands in recent years.
– He has borrowed them, Jensen corrects.
– Trygve sails under false flag. Sometimes it sounds like an echo of mine.
– Is it annoying?
– No, it’s fun. But he has chosen the wrong team, without the slightest opportunity to achieve what he says.
– The numbers vary
Jensen invited Vedum to the bourgeois side already while the FRP was in government and both Deputy Leader Listhaug and Leader Jensen wanted to share the King’s table with the Stange farmer, although she describes it as “completely unreal”.
– A conservative government, SP and FRP had been potentially very exciting. Since Trygve really means what he says. But what he says is not in the new program proposal of the Center Party.
– You’re cheating your voters!
– With what?
– With a rhetoric that is not found in the politics of the Center Party.
– What does it say about fees?
– For example.
– What else?
– With the partners you have chosen. He is not going to win all these fights. He will work on an ODM that will raise gasoline and diesel taxes overnight.
– I don’t think you will find many in Spain who want to collaborate with the MDGs.
– Now that the Labor Party is also in that galley, they will increase the taxes on gasoline and diesel overnight. Vedum is in very bad company.
Vedum: – The world of dreams
We have a walking Vedum in Bodø, who becomes laughable when he reads Jensen’s latest attack on him.
– It is only the FRP that talks about our cooperation with the MDGs, not about us. They have created a kind of dream world, says Vedum, who recalls that the Center Party wants to be in government with the Labor Party.
In the new program proposal of the Center Party, the party uses exactly the same wording that is used in the current National Transport Plan, which was presented by Ketil Solvik-Olsen of Frp, recalls Vedum.
– This is not something radical, it is a formulation of objectives. This is how we have it in many policy areas and we are speeding on our way to a higher proportion of zero-emission cars, explains Vedum.
Who admits that they want higher car taxes, on electric cars that cost more than 600,000 crowns?
– We want a lower tax on biodiesel. I would like to remind Jensen that he can actively use fiscal policy, also by writing it down.
The hunch
Siv Jensen was in government with KrF and Venstre, a company that no one at Frp is particularly interested in again. Jensen has not appeared at Erna Solberg’s dinners for bourgeois party leaders since he left government in January, he told Dagbladet earlier this fall.
Now Jensen will agree with his old friends on the budget, the first in seven years that he has not become finance minister.
– Can’t hold with two crowns in the snuffbox if you’re going to stop the commercial leak to Sweden?
– When we have said that the fight against cross-border trade is one of our important demands, there can be no less symbolic tax relief, no, says Jensen.
– Does the government offer slightly cheaper soft drinks in its proposal?
– It will not have any importance for cross border trade. I only know one person who gains something from that, and that’s Bård Hoksrud, says Jensen and laughs.
– I think you will save 60 crowns a year with the huge consumption you have.
– So you have to get KrF with cheaper alcohol and tobacco?
– KrF can no longer close its eyes to Norwegians buying alcohol and tobacco in Sweden. Still, tobacco use is declining.
Prohibit arranged marriages
– Did you suddenly seem a bit dejected after the government presented the budget after screaming very loudly for a long time?
– I do not think it is necessary that at this moment we use a vote so that the government understands that we are serious. If you haven’t understood it yet, you will notice it when you sit down at the negotiating table.
Jensen promises the ruling parties a difficult autumn. Finally, it will be about the political instincts of Listhaug and Jensen.
– You can be completely sure that we will feel the instinct as to whether or not you are good enough to recommend the negotiated solution to the parliamentary group.
– What if the gut feeling is not there?
– I don’t have to speculate on that today, because we have the goal of making it happen. But then the government must work hard, and I hope they understand, Jensen warns.
Arguing with Carl
It is not common in Norwegian politics for resigned party leaders to be active and have strong opinions about the direction of their former party.
But neither is Carl I. Hagen anyone. Not in Norwegian politics, and certainly not in the Progress Party.
To be sold in Oppland and Oslo, he delivered a document with 15 points, some of which violate the policy adopted by the FRP, such as the assimilation of immigrants and the rejection of the UN climate panel. He is nominated for first place in Oppland and number three in Oslo, Jensen County itself.
– Are you in to deliver your own show?
– All our candidates must sign a self-declaration stating, among other things, that they undertake to follow the program adopted at all times.
– The infant hijab is negligence.
– So Carl I. Hagen promises too much?
He, like all other candidates, has a job, and it is to follow the policy adopted by the party.
– What is it like to have a former party leader who has his own program?
– First of all, Carl, as he always has been, is passionate about FRP and just as passionate about politics as when I met him many years ago. In fact, there is some respect for that. It does. He shines with many exciting contributions. From time to time, I discuss various topics with Carl, says Siv Jensen.
