Why did S. Skvernelis and R. Karbauskis expire? The politician who brought them together has an answer



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Vytautas Bruveris, a critic of the daily Lietuvos Rytas, claims that the decision to “separate” from the peasant leader Ramūnas Karbauskis will only strengthen S. Skvernelis’ tactical skills, as he and his new companions become a kind of free agents, whose votes it may be especially necessary for the rulers themselves.

For his part, Povilas Urbšys, a former member of the LVŽS faction, which led S.Skvernelis and R. Karbauskis before the 2016 Seimas elections, said that until recently, this well-functioning tandem collapsed due to the ambitions and personal intrigues of the latter.

Why was a successful duo destined to break up?

The duo of R. Karbauskis and S. Skvernelis, who led the peasants to the political Olympics in 2016, disintegrated. Then, the “matchmaker” of this political couple that brought them together, P. Urbšys considered that then a political force like the LVŽS was extremely necessary.

“I really do not regret having brought them together, because at the decisive moment, it seems to me, I still managed to form the third force, which was sorely needed in Lithuania. Let’s not forget that the people in Lithuania were disappointed by both the conservatives and the social democrats. .

We agree that it would be a worse option if the Labor Party or Order and Justice returned in 2016 with various shadows of criminal cases. Of course, it is worth mentioning that Karbauskis is the “first” and Karbauskis is the “second”, said P. Urbšys in the program “News of the day”.

He explained that R. Karbauskis was the only one until 2016, when he was just forming a future team and did not even dream of such success in the elections, and the other had already felt the taste of victory and stood with the favorites that he did. appreciated.

Speaking of the “first” R. Karbauskis, the politician stressed that at that time he followed the concept of bringing people together not according to party tickets, but according to values ​​and skills.

“This is how the candidacy of S. Skvernelis came about. At that time, the conflict between the president of the Seimas L. Graužinienė and the president had already broken out, and the famous escape of a prisoner with a pistol took place. S. Skvernelis appeared to be willing to resign from office.

Then the first reunion with R. Karbauskis took place and I told him: “You have no right to withdraw. He has the opportunity to be prime minister and perhaps president in the future. ” He did not become president, but prime minister. R. Karbauskis himself said that only you can unite us. In fact, because R. Karbauskis is a businessman and S. Skvernelis is a former official.

I was like a chemist who managed to put that derivative together. That tandem has had a positive effect for some time, ”said P. Urbšys.

Changed by the government and surrounding intrigues?

Taking into account what could have happened with the expiration of the duo’s mandate, the former member of Seimas also mentioned the “second” R. Karbauskis and pointed out that “in politics, the limitation occurs when those who acquire political power fail to pass for his personal complaints. ” or personal ambitions. ‘

“Another flaw is that those who gain power are intoxicated by it. I remember a period after a few months when we had an absolute majority in the Seimas, the deliberations said:” We have an arithmetic majority and we can make decisions without even getting into discussions with others”.

I told them that those who had been before us followed this principle and that you can see what they came to, ”emphasized Fr. Urbšys.

According to him, R. Karbauskis managed to dissolve the LVŽS faction in two years: he began to classify people according to those who are devoted to him, not very devoted and not at all devoted. And the affairs of state, according to P. Urbšis, became secondary.

Then the classification begins: loyal, unfair, trustworthy, unreliable. Some people are really competent, while others try to persuade and accept what you say at all costs. Turns out he likes it. Agnė Širinskienė became an ideal figure. I must admit that this man also had to be put into politics.

But you always see what politics makes of a person, what qualities they reveal, it even surprises you how that person flourishes, “the interlocutor was surprised.

Previously, according to him, there was a Karbauskis-Skvernelis tandem, but now it is still Karbauskis-Širinskienė, who is said to be able to “subordinate” any policy.

“R. Karbauskis, apparently making up for his absence in the Seimas, his withdrawal, using the intrigues of A.Širinskienė, put together a closed format, and not 100 percent. The people who support him become strange and unreliable. They did not gather individual formations and secretly consulted, but were shown to be lepers and unreliable.

Let’s not forget that until 2016 there was a peasant in the Seimas: R.Baškienė. And in 2016, when they had a majority, they made such people that there was no majority, there were no more votes, ”said P. Urbšys.

He pointed out that R. Karbauskis had done everything, even changed the party’s statutes, so that S. Skvernelis would not join the party and become its competitor in the election of its president.

You did it well?

V. Bruveris, a critic of the daily Lietuvos Rytas, is convinced that by separating from R. Karbauskis, S. Skvernelis strengthened his perspectives as a politician.

“From a tactical perspective, I think it strengthens. Now he is becoming an important free agent for everyone. The rulers, although the opposition has no chance of overthrowing them, desperately need votes, especially in important and decisive moments, nor are they omnipotent. They need those votes all the time and S. Skvernel with his free agent company is very important.

Needless to say, how joyous and anticipated this message was in the ranks of the rulers. It will be a new window of opportunity when it comes to negotiating a partnership and things like that, “said V. Bruveris.

It is true that he added that the rulers should not put too much hope in S. Skvernel. “I do not believe that all those hopes are measured. The rulers themselves, who have more experience, predict that S. Skvernel will not be a very reliable partner. But in some cases, they can expect support,” the reviewer emphasized.

However, V. Bruveris opposed P. Urbšis, explaining that R. Karbauskis, as a competitor, probably feared not to change S. Skvernelis, but the Commissioner of the European Commission Virginijus Sinkevičius, by changing the statutes for the election of the president of the party. .

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