Vytautas Juozapaitis: “There are more serious things in Lithuania than Gražulis’s friends”



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The Seimas Culture Committee meeting held on Wednesday morning became almost the most discussed topic of the day. During the remote meeting of committee members, when MP Petras Gražulis’s webcam was turned on, a naked man appeared next to him.

Petras Gražulis himself changed his mind when commenting on the situation. At first he said that he had a son by his side, then he tried to joke with the news portals that he was standing next to him … the journalist Andrius Tapinas.

Joined the meeting late

President of the Culture Commission V. Juozapaitis People.lt He said he hadn’t noticed a half-naked man on screen during the hearing because he focused on the issues at stake and the document being discussed.

“The incident took place in the 13th minute of the match. I have seen that in the social space it is sometimes said that everything happened in 13 hours and 45 minutes. No. This happened at the beginning of the meeting, around 9 in the morning. When the late Petras Gražulis joined, if they saw the record, I still asked him who was speaking here. I couldn’t identify it because the document we were talking about was summarized on screen at the time. Therefore, no one paid attention during the hearing as everyone focused on the document and the issues related to it. There was no message from any member that something was wrong. Well, but someone noticed and that record was extended, “said V. Juozapaitis.

Video of the meeting. Connection time P.Gražulis – 13 min. 45 seconds:

There can be no spectators

He added that he did not interfere in the personal life of the Seimas Gražulis member, but noted that his behavior was contrary to elementary ethics.

“My comment on this topic is simple. I really do not interfere and do not fly in the personal life of any member of the Seimas, here is his private matter, who he lives with, who is with him, but … we are talking about work. A Although the sessions are held remotely, they are public and each member of the Seimas must ensure that their workplace is safe and that no unauthorized persons are present. Unless a member of the Seimas declares, presents and requests permission to other members of the Seimas, if an unauthorized person can participate with him or her.

In this case, a domestic incident occurred. The man seen in that video probably came and helped P. Gražulis join. I don’t know, I can’t comment. However, the fact that a person was naked, either completely or half, is something ethical. After all, even in a public place, people don’t walk like this anyway, except on the beach during the summer. We probably do not imagine that a parliamentarian will bring a half-naked friend, relative or anything to a session of the Seimas ”, said the president of the Culture Commission.

If, by mistake or your fault, a blink has occurred and the Seimas’s reputation has been damaged, have the honor and courage to apologize.

According to V. Juozapaitis, this incident is an unequivocal sign of a violation of the ethics of conduct of a member of the Seimas.

“It is very sad that the Culture Committee has become famous just because of this incident. We resolve serious issues and today there are much more serious issues and current affairs in Lithuania than the friends of the Seimas Gražulis member. Of course, these blinks are not Seimas sessions must be conducted in accordance with all requirements, both safety and ethical. This is unethical behavior. And if that happened, a member of the Seimas would have to apologize, “said V. Juozapaitis.

Photo by Vytautas Juozapaitis / Irmantas Gelūnas

Photo by Vytautas Juozapaitis / Irmantas Gelūnas

When asked if he had read P. Gražulis’ comment that allegedly her ex-husband, journalist A. Tapinas, V. Juozapaitis said that he had heard this nonsense, but could not take any action. The only thing that is in the hands of the president is to ask P. Gražulis not to repeat it.

“The committee chair is not a guide for its members, he just coordinates the work. Our responsibilities and rights are absolutely the same for everyone. Yes, I have to ask that this not happen again, but it is more a matter of the guardians of ethics, perhaps the board, when preparing a regulation for the members of the Seimas on how telework should be carried out. The Seimas Gražulis member is not from kindergarten, he is not a teenager for me to raise or teach. He is elected in a one-member constituency, and the people have elected a member of the Seimas. I cannot punish him, corner him or deprive him in any way by not being able to join the meeting while he is a member of the committee. ”

The reputation of the Seimas was damaged

The president of the culture committee says that P. Gražulis should apologize.

Well, mistakes do happen, all humans. But if by mistake or your fault there was a blink and the reputation of the Seimas was damaged, have the honor and courage to apologize and explain at the end what happened and who was caught in that session, because it is no longer a private matter. We don’t ask who lives with him. We asked who was by his side during the meeting. That should be explained. But I see that he himself continues to fuel that fuss and involve people who have nothing to do with the Seimas.

I believe that when the Ethics and Procedures Commission is formed, here it will have one of the first tasks to evaluate the behavior of a member of Seimas. On the other hand, on Thursday, the Seimas is waiting for a visit from a prosecutor, who will request the suspension of the immunity of this member of the Seimas for completely different things. I don’t know, maybe this is how he reacts and tries to focus his attention on other problems. In any case, I do not justify such behavior and actions, “said V. Juozapaitis.



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