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“We need to win over the dubious members of the Seimas, who look like windmills in the winds of influence. If the number of signatures is 300,000, it will be a huge force, a very strong argument.
On the other hand, it is also clear that after the Seimas ratifies the Istanbul Convention or adopts the Association Law, the president can veto them. But you see how they attack it. You must see the position of the nation. And how will you see it? A vote is needed. It is very important to show the position of the nation ”, urged the popular Catholic priest A. Toliatas on the Facebook account of the social network.
It is true that he then began to explain that he was not trying to politicize in this way, but simply inviting discussion.
“So my sharing is an invitation to deepen the discussion. And I do not impose anything on anyone. As a free and democratic country, I share my opinion ”, announced A. Toliatas three hours after the first recording.
15 minutes managed to contact the clergyman. According to him, he would not like to talk further about the ratification of the Istanbul Convention, because after consulting with the leaders he decided that the position of the church on this issue had already been expressed.
“My intention was to invite people to delve into this topic. As I have received comments that this sounds more like agitation for a petition than to share a letter from Lina (the letter was shared by Lina Šulcienė, the priest recorded it on Facebook – ed. Paste), I cut the part that deals with the petition . I don’t have much to comment on ” 15 minutes A. Toliatas explained in a short message sent.
The popular priest’s record also received a response from famous people, read more here: The famous priest’s speech enraged LGBT supporters: “This is true atheism.”
Human rights defenders are shocked
In response to A. Tololia’s recording, Birutė Sabatauskaitė, director of the Lithuanian Human Rights Center (LHRC), asked to recall that the government of the church and the state in Lithuania are currently separated.
“Firstly, there is no state religion in Lithuania. Secondly, especially in the context of a pandemic, we also hear from the Lithuanian Catholic Church how important it is not to divide, unite and take care of each other. What I see now it is the unified dissemination of false information by various organizations and various priests about the convention, whose main objective is to protect people from domestic violence and gender-based violence, ”said B. Sabatauskaitė.
According to the director of the LJTC, the information disseminated by some Catholics in public space is incorrect
According to the director of the LJTC, the information disseminated by some Catholics in the public space is incorrect.
“I want to express my sadness and frustration because people, using their power and very good understanding of what they are doing, are spreading information that does not correspond to reality. When I read in public, it is said that the adoption of these laws “will endanger our existence as a Catholic gymnasium, our freedom of religion and conscience.” I consider it to be the spread of false information, “said B. Sabatauskaitė.
Posted then deleted
In citing the words about the danger to the gym’s survival, the LJTC director also took into account the statement from the Franciscan gym, which appeared on social media this Monday.
A post distributed by Facebook.com/French Progymnasium
After much reaction from netizens, this post was removed, leaving an explanation that the school is not a place for political debate.
“Today on the gym’s Facebook page we share the chaplain fr. In the opinion of Paulius D. Vaineikis OFM on the bills in preparation. We believe that the gymnasium community account is not an appropriate place for political discussions, so we removed this post, ”the gymnasium wrote.
15 minutes after contacting the chaplain of the Franciscan Gymnasium, he further argued that the fight against the ratification of the Istanbul Convention should continue. In a comment he posted, he quoted the Bible and said that homosexuality is a sin. We provide an unedited chaplain’s comment.
“Jesus teaches us as Christians to love man, but NOT to tolerate his sins!
The law of the Istanbul Convention and all laws contrary to the natural order established by God are INVALID!
All Christians, as well as people of common sense, HAVE the RIGHT and the DUTY to express their opinion, by all legal and democratic means, to FIGHT, DEFEND the younger generation against the sins and perversions mentioned in the Bible! ! ”- writes Fr. In the comment sent by Paulius D.Vaineikis to the OFM.
The position of the church does not change
On June 12, 2018, the Lithuanian Bishops’ Conference issued a statement stating that the country’s bishops did not support ratification of the Istanbul Convention, but spoke out against domestic violence.
“In principle, the Istanbul Convention simply repeats the provisions already enshrined in the law of the Republic of Lithuania, so the ratification of this Convention would not help to reduce the number of manifestations of violence, but would create other serious problems.
We do not support the problematic Istanbul Convention, but all measures that allow the real implementation of the existing Lithuanian legal norms, which provide for the prevention and deterrence of violence against women, ”LVK wrote in his speech.
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