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Amendments to the Law of Associations The first threshold did not pass at the Seimas on Tuesday..
The Seimas factions were not united on them, opinions also differed among the “peasants” who operated in the opposition.
Although the majority of the members of this faction voted “no” and one abstained, three “peasants” from the Seimas: the non-partisan Lukas Savickas and Rūta Miliūtė and the vice-president of the LVŽS, the party’s Minister of Social Security and Labor. .Tomilinas – supported the amendments.
The latter, emphasizing that this – his personal opinion, made a passionate speech at the Seimas – said that homosexuals are also people, called for a compromise on the legalization of the association.
“I will not be able to vote for this project as it is written today. We will have to make concessions, we will have to find solutions, we will have to satisfy all parties. <.../>
Homosexuals are people, and therefore <...> It can be a bit like marriage, because they are the same Lithuanians, the same people.
But first, folks, let’s face it, homosexuals are people and therefore <...> It can be a bit like marriage, because they are the same Lithuanians, the same people. Their DNA is the same, so we must first respect them as human beings ”, said Tomilinas during the Seimas session.
Did you work against the party program?
Responding to the public statements of his colleague and his position on the subject of the Association Law, R. Karbauskis promised to “speak” about it in the party.
“We will speak when we call a council meeting.
And tell him (T. Tomilinui – 15min) I need what you would say to any party member when he acts without regard for our party’s values, a program when he speaks the exact opposite. ‘ 15 minutes R. Karbauskis commented.
Photo by Julius Kalinskas / 15min / Ramūnas Karbauskis
The LVŽS included in the 2016 election program the goal of amending the Civil Code and establishing that, without establishing legal family relationships, people of different genders who lead a joint farm could address financial, inheritance and other issues.
“In our opinion, the state family policy should focus not on creating surplus legal institutes, but on promoting the welfare of Lithuanian families.
The association institute is redundant, it is characterized by the short term, less responsibility, which is why we believe that it is not a legal institute favorable to Lithuanian families.
However, we will strive to allow people of different genders who lead a joint farm to solve financial, inheritance and other problems without creating a legal family relationship, ”the LVŽS program teaches.
The problem is public speaking
R. Karbauskis stated that both the members of the LVŽS and the voters of the party have a very categorical opinion on the legalization of the association.
Tomilino’s willingness to compromise was evaluated by politicians as inferences:
“There are no ambiguities with us on this issue, and his position is derivative. He speaks as a complete and utter liberal.”
Talk like a total and absolute liberal.
“We told him not to change his mind, whatever he wants!
We have people who have a different sexual orientation, they belong to the LGBT community. We don’t give him trouble, we never did <...>, we don’t discriminate against people because of their orientation or something like that, ”said R. Karbauskis.
Sigismund Gedvila / 15min photo / Tomas Tomilinas
The problem, he said, is that Tomilin, who is also his deputy, has publicly expressed the position against the party:
“He does it specifically, consciously, publicly and specifically where he can. He realizes that it is fun for the media because he gives a different opinion, then [žiniasklaida] it can be said that the party has different opinions, the party has split. “
The party will evaluate by ranking before the election.
But according to R. Karbauskis, the party was not divided, and T. Tomlas with his opinion is one.
“The party has not been broken anywhere, it does not have different opinions. It is about a person, a member of the union, who is also a member of the Seimas, in this case also a vice president of the party, [nuomonė].
The indignation of the party members with their statements is enormous ”, assured the president of the LVŽS.
He urged both T. Tomilinas and other members of the Seimas LVŽS faction L. Savickas and R. Mililiūtė, who voted for the legalization of the association during the presentation, to remember who elected them and with which party they ran in the elections.
R. Karbauskis warned that in the future the party may assess its behavior accordingly.
The people who joined us on the lists took and spit out the core values of our party.
“It may mean that in the future, when the party makes the lists in three and a half years, it will appreciate all this, that the people who joined us on the lists have taken and spit on the core values of our party. [nutikti]but I don’t know what it will be like then.
It is painful in the sense that our voters expect something completely different from us, “he said.
It is no longer seen in the office in the shadow of T.
Asked if he would seek the dismissal of T. Tomilinas from the LVŽS, R. Karbauskis assured that he would not raise this issue, but, according to him, it could be considered to remove him from the post of Minister of Social Security in the shadows and Labor.
Photo by Lukas Balandis / 15min / Ramunas Karbauskis, Tomas Tomilinas
“If someone wants to ask me what can change, this is one of the questions where there really can be a change.
The Council approves the composition of shadow ministers and the council can replace any minister. I know that there are initiatives, I know that this is discussed in the Cabinet.
If there is such an initiative, I will definitely support it, I will not start it myself, “said R. Karbauskis, noting that the council could make a decision within a month.
Will be reconciled with the fine
Tomilin said he was willing to accept “punishment” if he was removed from the post of shadow minister.
“If it turns out to the council that my competence is not necessary, if it wants to punish me, it will be punished. I am ready to accept that fine. 15 minutes commented.
I should be judged, and in the context of the party, precisely on the ability to express my opinion.
“I don’t really hold any position, and I think I should be judged first and foremost, and in the context of the party, that is, by the ability to express one’s opinion, not be afraid of anger, the consequences of respecting it, respecting another more conservative, more liberal person “.
Tomilin disagreed that he was in favor of legalizing society only in the party.
According to him, R. Karbauskis is lying when he says that.
This is an outright lie.
“It is an outright lie. <...> That he communicate not only with the section presidents, but also with the vice presidents, ordinary members. <...> There is a dominant opinion, but there are many people who do not agree, we have to listen to all opinions, “urged Tomilinas.
When asked if it was possible that in the future the party would negatively evaluate his decision and that of his fellow group members to support the Association Law and this would be reflected in the pre-election ranking, the politician agreed that this could be the case.
“There are always consequences in politics. A bold vote is bold when something is risked,” he said, but emphasized that it would be the party, not its president, who would decide.
He sought to transfer the “struggles” to the Seimas
“The classification is a fair procedure, the final decision does not depend on the president of the party. For example, the party president did not want to see me on the list of vice presidents, in order, but the ranking decided otherwise, ”Tomilinas recalled.
The politician made it clear that he will continue to actively express his opinion in the future, whatever it may be.
“It just came to our attention then.” If we don’t talk and argue, we wouldn’t need to, we could set up a political office and run the country, “he said.
During the presentation, voting in favor of the amendments to the Public Limited Companies Law, T. Tomilinas stated that he wanted the fight for them not to take place in the street, but in the Seimas.
“In this case, it was important to me that the public calmed down so that we could move the battle from the association to the parliament and not leave it on the street.
It is not that I agree 100% with everything that is written in that law, but my arguments were about something different, “he said.
He promises to return to law in the fall session.
Only a few votes were needed to pass the amendments to the Corporation Law on Tuesday.
You can check how all the representatives of the nation voted for them here.
The representatives of the Freedom Party who came to the Seimas with the Association Law promise to adjust it and present it again in the fall session.
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Opposition “peasants” and various cricketers are proposing cohabitation agreements instead of the Association Law, which could be concluded not only by couples but also, for example, by relatives living together.
These amendments to the coexistence contracts registered in 2017 passed the presentation stage in the Seimas, but were not considered further because they got stuck in the Law and Order Committee.
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