Landsbergis: the Baltic states will pass through Belarus

Landsberg: all scenarios are in Putin’s hands

When asked at the beginning of the program what was the most realistic scenario for the future of Belarus, V. Landsbergis said that everything would be as Russian President Vladimir Putin would say.

“It just came to our attention then. What Putin chooses will be. We’ll see. Maybe he will continue to support Lukashenko until the West stops fooling around. The West is joking all the time, supposedly Lukashenko. There is no Lukashenko, there is Putin. cholopas, Putino cholopas In Minsk, it does what it is ordered or permitted to do to the extent permitted. I don’t know if it would be permissible to shoot down a plane, but to threaten and violate a passenger plane in flight, and not only Lukashenko is not responsible, it is actually Putin’s responsibility here, because the military planes that protect the border belong to Putin. So those helicopters are Russian. Everybody pretends to be a kindergarten, because it is inconvenient to mention Mr. Putin, ”says V. Landsbergis.

When asked how realistic the plans are for a united state Russia-Belarus, V. Landsbergis assures that everything is happening very fast at the moment.

“Lukashenko is trapped there, once he signs a paper. In fact, those pocket books have no legal force, but for bosses like Putin, legal power has no meaning, force and facts are important. decide that the political inconveniences and political losses are less than good, then they will take, they will make a kind of semi-province, maybe call it Belarus. In general, everything happens very quickly, “says the professor.

As V. Landsbergis says on the show, Belarusians have not yet shown that they are determined to fight for independence.

“But who is Belarusian society and who can express their opinion? According to polls, if they are credible, perhaps credible, then Belarusian society is not determined to fight for independence. Meanwhile, it is only said that Lukashenko is not good enough, it is better to replace it with some “šukalenka”, says V. Landsbergis.

Russia tries to get closer to the Baltic countries

When asked if Putin’s plan could be to try to approach the Baltic states through Belarus, Professor V. Landsbergis does not even doubt it.

“It just came to our notice then. The Baltic countries will pass through Belarus. On the one hand, Lithuania is being blackmailed by the Astrava bomb, and Lukashenko has already argued that the space must be protected, as terrorists can attack Astrava. Belarus has closed, but will continue to attract bases and troops to that border to defend themselves against Lithuanian terrorists. After all, they do everything according to old models, which has been worked on for some time in Moscow. They are terrorists themselves, but they do lists of terrorists, and that is what Pratasevičius is on the list of terrorists, what to do with him, should he be tried and perhaps sentenced to death: there is a total arbitrariness and a state of terror where there is nothing to talk about. No there is such a state, there are two states, and the chief is sitting in Moscow, “says V. Landsbergis.

The professor also mentioned in the program the threats he sees for Lithuania.

“I see a threat to scare Lithuania. To panic and start listening to those who say that you have to adapt, do not disturb anything If Russia demands something, or perhaps demands that those American planes do not fly to Zokniai, because it represents a great danger to Russia. These things will begin, and I am afraid they could be considered, especially if the Americans agree to that, and what the outcome of Biden’s meeting with Russia will be is now not completely clear, and who needed such a meeting. He needs it. Putin needs it, but they’ve “orchestrated” it so much that Biden offers and invites. Of course, that will clearly be understood as an apology. That the killer is sitting there and now you want to talk to him in a friendly way. That means that he’s not actually a murderer, and you agree, he’s just like you in every way. I think Biden needs to review his list of advisers who advise him on such things. This is clearly done in Putin’s favor. ” Landsbergis says.

When asked whether the interests of defense and national security should not be reconsidered, Professor V. Landsbergis said this was important.

“First of all, Russia is there now [Baltarusijoje – Delfi], it’s just a matter of name. And what must be protected and what must be protected is to protect our people. After all, convictions and indictments were issued to Lithuanian lawyers who dared to convict Russian citizens for the January 13 massacre. They were convicted; for example, if he is kidnapped, dragged somewhere and tried by Lithuanian lawyers there, one can only imagine the fate of those lawyers, as well as Pratasevičius and his girlfriend. What do you do with them? Nobody knows, and it is allowed because it cannot be interfered with, and what cannot be interfered with? To the problems of humanity. It has long been said that there are no borders beyond which sovereignty protects the tyrant. Tyrone is a tyrant. Take off your hat in front of him and apologize for allowing yourself to express concern? This is a kindergarten, ”says V. Landsbergis.

When asked if Putin could donate to Lukashenko for some reason, the professor says Putin could have that card too.

“It just came to our notice then. Lukashenko is a backup card to suddenly make Putin very good, to lift the sanctions for the war in Ukraine, for whatever. Maybe they will even demand that no Americans be in the Baltics. You can demand everything if there is a soft material that yields, ”says V. Landsbergis.

There’s always an exit. We have to be prepared to defend ourselves, Ukraine also needs to be prepared to defend itself, the United States will not come to defend it, it seems that it has already been agreed, or perhaps the price was that the Americans will no longer run and support Nord. Stream. After all, this has already happened and some colleagues are considering: if Putin does not attack Kiev directly and does not attract the army, but a little, what did he get for that? And right away, Nord Stream is good, we no longer resist. Maybe that’s the price, but if you can get concessions that change US state policy, it is enshrined in both congressional and ex-presidential decrees, which means that you can give a lot, ”says the professor.

According to him, we also see very important signs of the upcoming meeting between Putin and Biden.

“I think the communication should be very clear, we must realize that we are dealing with the great terrorism and the terrorist regime in Moscow, and Minsk is just a branch, but it is possible to verify. “This meeting between Biden and Putin could be a test if he called for the release of people kidnapped by terrorists, condemned the action and said that it is not our action here,” he said.

As National Defense Minister Arvydas Anušauskas said on the show a few days ago, it is currently unsafe for everyone in Belarus, not just the opposition who have found refuge in Lithuania.

“It just came to our attention then. Of course, there must be a choice. Maybe the SSD is ready, maybe it has special powers, extra resources to protect people. And as a guarded border, things are very neglected everywhere, such Once terrorism was not expected to progress in that way, but it is progressing because Lukashenko may not see another way or it may not occur to him. The simplest thing for him here is to hit it in the head and it will be fine for him, “says the professor.

According to the professor, Putin has a secret card and will use it against Lukashenko if he wants.

“For them [R. Pratasevičiui ir S. Sapegai – Delfi] now you can also say: why did you fly? Because, as they say, no one imagined that he could cross that line. They will cross any line if they decide it has a useful and necessary effect. The effect is. I think it is very harmful for Belarus, as a country, as a people, but it is unlikely to be harmful for Lukashenko until Putin wants to “eliminate” him. If I wanted to, of course I would use it against you. They said: that was Lukashenko, what he did, and I didn’t know anything, now I reject him. You can put that card in your pocket, ”says V. Landsbergis.