S.Svvernelis – on negotiations with social societies, relations with the president and leaders of the faction.



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– Mr. Skverneli, portal Delphi writes that the Social Democrat Algirdas Sys already called some members of the “peasants” who split into the new faction to join them, but they did not agree. Did you also receive that appeal, an invitation from the Socialist Group?

– Well, I really didn’t understand it, it would be naive. And because colleagues who apparently considered whether to add to the mixed group of Seimas members or make other decisions, they may have said something, but that process is happening at Seimas.

I didn’t really get anything and apparently my colleagues made the right decision too. Only a group of Seimas members met in a faction that has a clear agenda of its own. Being in the opposition will continue to work, although the opposition will share in a priority, egalitarian way if we see where the communication can be given. His colleague Algirdas Sys often seems to say perhaps what he would like, but not what he is.

– If, for example, you formed a coalition with the Social Democrats in the opposition groups, you would have 26 members. The coalition of peasant and labor factions would have 22 members. You would have a minority majority and then you could go back to being the leader of the opposition. Don’t you promise to form coalitions?

– We will definitely talk, and I spoke, I met with the esteemed Vilija Blinkevičiūtė, we talked about the political agenda in general. How to fill it, what center-left initiatives where we can collaborate. But you can’t talk about merging because < ... > Not only a group has brought us together, but those jobs and values ​​that we have discussed together on more than one occasion, and I think we will surely be successful in that group.

When it comes to cooperation, when there is scope for cooperation, we will certainly do so. And with the social democrats, the difference seems to be very fundamental in terms of their support for those in power, especially on those sensitive issues that are shaking society, such as the association law, etc., there we will have different points of view. view.

There will or will not be a formal agreement, this will probably be seen in the fall session, but we are not really joking, we do not intend to sign it. Even in our group, we decided that on Thursday we would choose an elder, it would be a democratically elected secret elder, and we decided together that we would change each session, there would be a different person, and that is why there is no post. in any opposition there is a goal or an end in itself for us.

There will or will not be a formal agreement, this will probably be seen in the fall session, but we are not kidding, we do not intend to sign it.

– Says he does not intend to lead the opposition, as has been the case so far, and opposition leaders will rotate between factions. As a result, there will be no attempts to mobilize the majority of the opposition.?

– So far I don’t see such assumptions, but you can talk all the time. In any case, even with a coalition agreement, I don’t think that’s the most relevant issue in our group at the moment. As for the agreement that is in force, you must now rotate to be the representative of the Labor Party as the leader of the opposition, and if there is an agreement and it is necessary, we will all decide. < ... >

– You now have more votes than the Freedom Party in the ruling coalition. If, for example, there was a proposal from the rulers, would you run instead?

– Of course not, there is no such language. Such rumors float when someone tries to incite us because we are in the opposition, we have a very clear orientation of the center-left political force. These are our jobs and intentions, which is what we will try to do in opposition.

It is very clearly focused, I separate my focus from the person, from the non-promotion of conflicts, that is why we have not considered, we are not considering and, I think, we will not consider how to join the governing coalition.

– Regarding leadership, at today’s conference, Linas Kukuraitis announced her plans, regarding the departure of ten people from the peasant group. And when it comes to informal leadership, will you be the leader of this group, which we will normally see in the media if we need a word from the group?

– I think we can all speak on behalf of 13 people, and it is certainly not the case that there is a one-man faction, that would not have been the case without colleagues. < ... >

It is certainly not the case that there is a faction of a person.

When it comes to leadership, it’s really after the Seimas elections that I think I noticed a lot of great qualities in Linas Kukuraitis himself. The leader who is really creating and mobilizing is Rima Baškienė, who has many years of experience, it is Algirdas Butkevičius, also with a lot of experience as a member of parliament. Tomas Tomilinas, colleagues Laima Nagienė, Laima Mogenienė, young people – Lukas Savickas, Rūta Miliūtė.

I may not have mentioned something, but in reality it is the people who will be persuaded who will speak, and we really hope that in such a democratic way of respecting each other through rotation, we will certainly never become hostages of one person or on a person’s faction. .

– How would you describe your group’s relationship with the president?

– In any case, we will evaluate and discuss the presidential initiatives. If they meet our expectations, we will certainly support the president, if they don’t, we will say that this is unacceptable to us, or if mistakes are made, we will appoint them.

Here, too, another similar myth is told that Squernel staunchly does not support or love the president. < … > We were only competitors, but the election was over and the story would not happen again. < ... > But now that the president is proposing any bill or any candidacy, some of my former colleagues are saying that we must support unconditionally, without even arguing, not even asking why, which certainly cannot be.

I respect the President of the Republic, he is the head of the country, but if I have a position that is also a State position …

I understand that it is not easy for the president either, but the president is valued for his actions and his behavior. I respect the President of the Republic, he is the head of the country, but if I have a position that is also a state position … Example: who has to represent the state in the European Council? I don’t care if the president is now Nausėda, Prime Minister Šimonytė or vice versa.

I believe (because I had this experience as head of government) that there should be a prime minister there, but that does not mean that in this case I unconditionally oppose the president for that position against the Presidency.

< … > We really see that political cooperation without any deduction. If the president is, let’s say, now at war with the conservatives, then we are supposed to side with the president because he is at war with the conservatives. It is very primitive to behave in politics in this way.

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