Kaunas fights for justice: Marking the site “Urmo” – uncoordinated, so police fines may be illegal



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The endless traffic accidents in a large area of ​​”Urmo Shopping Town” have been causing confusion for some time. Upon arrival, police officers apply the right hand rule and identify one perpetrator of the accident, followed by another based on horizontal marking. The fact that a curious situation arises in the search for the culprits was also recognized by the experts: should the triangles drawn on the pavement be followed or not?

“The triangles are not only indicative, they are mentioned in the Traffic Rules: they indicate the place where the driver should stop when yielding. However, I doubt that those triangles can be used without the ‘Yield’ sign. If they are only drawn triangles, are they legal? Because wherever you see them, there is a sign at the intersection and the sign “Yield Right.” How do I know, for example, when it snows in winter, that I am not driving on the main road? Interesting situation . There are probably gaps in the road markings. Ambiguous situation: the labeling seems to exist, but is equally illegal in terms of use. Puzzle “, before 15 minutes is a positive master conductor Vytautas Šak conductornas.

In April of this year 15 minutes described an ordinary accident, where the businessman from Kaunas Rolandas fell on March 6. He did not agree with the 30 euro fine imposed by the police and challenged the decision.

5 months have passed, the insurance money has already reached the alleged victim of the traffic accident, a speeding Opel driver, whom Roland encountered while driving a Volkswagen Touran at the Urmo shopping center, but the dispute did not has been resolved so far. After compiling the protocol, the police simply threw the person into explaining with the whole bureaucratic system: is the marking on which the protocol is based and the fine imposed legal? If it turns out that this is not likely to affect the interpretation of several traffic accidents that occurred in the territory of the “Urmo Shopping Town”, the validity of the established guilt and the fines would be questioned.

Photo by reader Roland / The accident in Urmo Shopping Town has sparked a debate: is labeling legal?

Photo by reader Roland / The accident in Urmo Shopping Town has sparked a debate: is labeling legal?

I did not coordinate with the police

Immediately after the accident, Rolandas, who was found guilty of the traffic accident, addressed not only an independent expert, but also the Municipality of Kaunas and its Traffic Safety Commission about the legality of the signage at the Urmo Shopping site. Town. The municipality received a response that the tagging project had not been coordinated with the municipality, that the land was private, so it is necessary to submit a request to the Kaunas County LSC Highway Police Board. This confirmed that the horizontal markings drawn on the Urmo Shopping Town site had not been agreed with the police.

Photo by reader Roland / The accident in Urmo Shopping Town has sparked a debate: is labeling legal?

Photo by reader Roland / The accident in Urmo Shopping Town has sparked a debate: is labeling legal?

“We can safely say that no one coordinated anything.” Urmas “arbitrarily writes what he wants on the asphalt, and the police punish him on that basis. An independent expert concluded that the driver of the Opel pickup was traveling at 50 km / h. A the speed that caused that accident, i. In other words, he did not observe the safe speed and could have prevented the traffic accident, “said Roland.

Try to draw lines in your private house or erect an incomparable traffic sign, most likely you will be immediately administratively sanctioned. And in this situation, as Roland claims, the police punish people, impose fines without paying attention to the fact that labeling is illegal.

An administrative procedure for labeling has been initiated.

At the May meeting at the Kaunas County LSC Highway Police Board, the findings of the independent expert hired by Roland were rejected on the grounds that they were presented by a person commissioned by a non-police officer. Law enforcement officers reiterated that speeding is not relevant in this case. It was decided to apply for an expert examination at the Lithuanian Forensic Science Center.

Later, Roland discovered that the police had initiated an administrative lawsuit for the uncoordinated and possibly illegal marking of the site of the commercial city of Urmo.

On August 4, after receiving the conclusion from the Lithuanian Forensic Science Center, a meeting of the Kaunas County LSC Highway Police Board was held again. That conclusion reiterated that Opel had more than doubled the speed limit in the parking lot to 45.8 km / h. speed, and the car’s braking distance stretched up to 9 meters. If you exceed the speed limit on the main road so many times, you are likely to lose your driver’s license. Roland asks the question: what if it wasn’t him, but a child or a mother in a wheelchair who had appeared in front of Opel?

“That conclusion is terrible, with many errors, even the names of the car brands are mixed. The lawyer offered to reject it,” wondered Roland, whose car was barely moving at the time of the accident but became impassable after the accident. shock added to the landfill.

The police promise to make a decision in this dispute next week. The interlocutor so far has not paid the fine imposed on him because he does not agree that he is the culprit of the accident. Although the dispute has not been resolved, the real culprit is still unclear, the insurance company has already paid the money to the alleged victim, an Opel driver, based on a police certificate. He applied for insurance benefits a few weeks after the accident.

The study can last up to two years.

Kaunas County Police 15 minutes confirmed that an administrative procedure has indeed been initiated for the use of horizontal road markings in the territory of Pramonės ave. 16 in Kaunas, which is not coordinated with the Kaunas County LSC Highway Police Board subdivision.

“The landlord has been identified, the former tenant has been identified, the current tenant has been identified, letters have been sent to them on providing information on the installation of horizontal road markings, some responses received, but not all and not all questions, so it is being investigated, “explained the Kaunas County Police. spokesperson Odeta Vaitkevičienė.

According to her, the maximum term of the investigation is two years.

According to O.Vaitkevičienė, Rolandas was informed in May by registered letter that an administrative procedure had been initiated with regard to the horizontal marking of the territory in Pramonės ave. 16 Beautiful.

Prepare a new traffic scheme.

15 minutes They also contacted Dovile Lengveniene, marketing director of the UAB Urmo prekybos miestelis. This ensured that the marking of the site had not been harmonized, but other owners who had taken over the management of “Urmo prekybos miestelis” in January of this year had taken steps to coordinate it with the Kaunas police, correcting it in accordance with the suggestions and explanations from specialists. On August 3 there was a new traffic accident in the area, during which a woman was run over in a pedestrian crossing. It is true that this accident is not related to tagging, but additional measures would improve safety at the site.

The company did not want to reveal more information about the administrative process initiated against it, nor did it elaborate on how the marking on the site would change, which will be presented later.

“This is one of the priorities of the new owners. We have been in charge of preparing a traffic plan and coordinating it, this is carried out by a specialized company. The project should be ready by August 17, then coordination with the police will take place. Mountains may also appear, a set of measures will be proposed to increase traffic safety on the site ”, assured the representative of Urmo Shopping Town.

After harmonization, the project should be implemented in a few months.



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