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◇ Announcer Hwang Bo-seon (hereinafter referred to as Hwang Bo-seon): With the order of Attorney General Chu Mi-ae, President Yoon Seok-yeol’s duties were suspended and a week of fate reached President Yoon. A court hearing will be held this morning to determine whether Yun’s exclusion is valid or whether it will be canceled. The day after tomorrow the prosecution and discipline commission called by Minister Chu will take place. The cancellation or not of the job exclusion has no choice but to affect President Yoon’s level of discipline. Let’s talk in detail. Former Congressman Park Min-sik is on the phone. Hi.
◆ Former Congressman Park Min-sik (hereinafter Park Min-sik): Yes, hello. This is Minsik park.
◇ Hwang Bo-seon: As I just said, is it 11 in the morning today? The date for the questioning is today on the suspension of the suspension of functions lawsuit filed by President Yoon Seok-yeol. This is related to the continuation of this week, tomorrow’s inspections and the Arena Disciplinary Committee.
◆ Park Min-sik: First of all, this case is a conflict between Minister of Justice Chu Mi-ae and Attorney General Yoon Seok-yeol. Do not fights occur with each other? This is a one-sided pursuit. However, as you said earlier, the exclusion of duty order is a measure that prevents you from leaving the position of judicial attorney general and starting today. But in fact, did this happen in our Korean public office? I am very questionable.
◇ Hwang Bo-sun: It is said to be the first time in history.
◆ Park Min-sik: Because it was done without going through the procedure, it was so bad, so either today or tomorrow morning, the court will accept the request for a temporary injunction to stay the execution of the order of exclusion. I see Yoon will return.
◇ Hwang Bo-seon: The supervision committee of the Ministry of Justice is likely to be held tomorrow, and the court ruling will come out quickly because there will be a disciplinary committee the next day, right?
◆ Park Min-sik: Yes. In fact, the supervisory commission only has an advisory effect because Minister Choo Mi-ae has changed the regulation at will.
◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Yes, it’s not mandatory, right?
◆ Park Min-sik: Yes, it is not mandatory, but it is expected that there will be considerable criticism from the supervisory committee for the unilateral disciplinary action of Minister Chu Mi-ae, and the most important is the disciplinary dismissal committee. It is a disciplinary committee that takes place the day after tomorrow, and the composition of this disciplinary committee is almost entirely in the hands of Minister Choo Mi-ae and the Minister of Justice. So even if there are various criticisms, if we look at the progress so far, the disciplinary committee on December 2 will decide to remove Minister Chu Mi-ae at will. Then after that, President Moon Jae-in must approve the procedure at the request of Minister of Justice Chu Mi-ae. So if the layoff is canceled on December 2, I’m thinking that President Moon Jae-in will leave silent mode until then and comment on something.
◇ Hwang Bo-seon: It seems certain that former legislator Park Min-sik will be removed from the disciplinary committee on December 2. Then there will be a statement from the president. Do you expect this?
◆ Park Minsik: Right.
◇ Hwang Bo-seon: First of all, is there any part that is more controversial? It’s called a temple, is it illegal or is it a normal business? Now, especially the judges, more and more people are giving their opinion. Former Congressman Park is from the Special Department of the Prosecutor’s Office. I’d like to hear an interpretation of this part.
◆ Park Min-sik: This is not because the judges, prosecutors and the hands are divided. Now, former Minister Cho Kuk made a very precise rule through Twitter, a few years ago. What is called a temple is an illegal purpose and an illegal way to investigate. In short, person A is very critical of this regimen. So, to punish him, he intercepts his cell phone and forces him to illegally follow him. However, the so-called temples of the judges that are now in trouble are just temple names and are in fact practices that have been practiced for decades in the society of court prosecutors and lawyers. This is why even very progressive teachers shouldn’t frame this as a temple because it has always been in the United States and Korea. Participatory Solidarity, which is the most representative progressive civic group. In solidarity of participation, Korean judges, prosecutors and databases are stacked. So, does it mean that the Participating Regiment inspected judges and prosecutors? No. So, calling this a temple is really too out of control, and that is why the prosecutor from the prosecutor’s office, whom Minister Chu Mi-ae had chosen, did not make a statement of conscience. This is not at all. It is not sin. So if I say simply inspect a judge with these things, the term itself is quite delicate, then am I not using it politically by Minister Chu Miae? Because at the beginning, when you said that you were supervising President Yoon Seok-yeol, the main reason was to meet the owner of the media, didn’t it come to light? Now that part has gone nowhere. I have many impressions that I was very impatient because I suddenly put it on, and therefore it is unreasonable even for the corresponding prosecutors and the prosecutors in charge. I wonder if he made a statement of conscience that it is not a sin.
◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Then, President Yoon released related documents. The reason for disclosing this is that even if it is disclosed, it will be disclosed and subject to common sense judgment. Do you see it like this?
◆ Park Minsik: Right. I don’t know how much I intervened, and with this, the prosecutor ordered this to be done, and I report it again, I don’t think this would have happened. And the content itself is simple, a practice that has existed in the legal world. If we speak a little easier, we play a baseball game, for example, but we Hyunjin Ryu throw a low ball well, for example, but the referee does not judge. On that day, the umpire maintains the strike zone at the high ball. No matter how well the ball is thrown, it will not catch a strike. In this case, the referee should not swear, and Ryu Hyun-jin should throw the ball high as the referee wants. Also, there is no point in referring to this as an inspector because it is necessary to know the style of the judge in order for a lawyer or prosecutor to compete in the trial. Also, for example, if there is a recent Kim Kyung-soo case or a political case that has become a hot topic in the public, maybe in the Blue House, the judge’s various styles are received, his propensities to judge , its various origins and all reports. If we call it a temple, it means that the Blue House has already inspected it dozens and hundreds of times.
◇ Hwang Bo-sun: Yes, I see. However, the atmosphere within the prosecution is upset. Review the prosecutors gathered to hold meetings and make statements. This is generally “black and white”, and we talk about it like that. As a prosecutor, why do you think this internal atmosphere is so serious?
◆ Park Min-sik: In the past, this happened once or twice during the test, but it was not as bad as now. It is illegal and unreasonable for everyone to step up and request the exclusion of President Yoon Seok-yeol’s duties and new disciplinary measures, from the highest prosecutor to the prosecutor to the highest prosecutor. Didn’t you make a statement like this? Almost 59 across the country? The prosecution said it had a meeting and issued a statement. So, somehow now, except for a few prosecutors alongside Minister Chu Mi-ae, it is one mind. This is, in other words, sanctions against Yun Seok-yeol, not a dimension of our longing for this, but the reason for the existence of the accusation. The political neutrality of the prosecution, this part, is now seriously undermined and oppressed. I seem to have this perception.
◇ Hwang Bo-seon: As expected, if the disciplinary committee decides to dismiss, the prosecutors will rebel more strongly.
◆ Park Min-sik: Could be. Now, in various ways, if no one else is wrong, the attorney general is so easily fired. All the citizens are watching, and if you say you get fired so easily, the pride of the prosecutors will crumble. They told me to research the power, but I did research on it, but it is very easy and cuts off at once. When I think about this, I think I will be very skeptical about what our rule of law or our democracy really is.
◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Yes, former legislator Park Min-sik threw the name plate at the Blue House Prosecutor’s Office, and even said this. What does this mean?
◆ Park Min-sik: I wrote a lot on Facebook recently, but it’s the same story. It’s a shame now. In the old days, when we looked at President Kim Dae-jung, President Kim Young-sam, President Roh Moo-hyun, and President Lee Myung-bak, there were many cases where the president’s son and brother were arrested by the attorney general whom he appointed. At that time, the President had the power to appoint and remove the Attorney General, but the President did not cross that line. How painful and upset must your heart have been? However, the president refrained from doing so. But looking at the situation now, it is very different from then. So he shouldn’t be fired on December 2, but if that happens and I don’t know how the president will announce it, I’m sure he could face some pretty serious national resistance.
◇ Hwang Boseon: I have a lot of questions right now, but lastly. Have you not declared your candidacy for the Busan mayoral election?
◆ Park Min-sik: Yes.
◇ Hwang Bo-seon: This is the last time I hear the reason for running. I’ll finish.
◆ Park Min-sik: I think the leadership of Busan should be changed again. With a youthful concept and youthful style, a new leader emerges and must give wings to the crashing Busan. If I say I have a chance, I will work hard and change Busan.
◇ Hwang Bo-sun: Yes, I see. I’ve heard you well so far.
◆ Park Min-sik: Thank you.
◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Until now, I was a former Congressman Park Min-sik.