Coronaians: preparing for even more deaths – Thirties spread virus – Hospital collapse



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Deadlier than ever is the second wave of the pandemic in Greece, which causes dozens of deaths every day and hundreds or thousands of cases. On the second day of the generalized shutdown in the country, the death toll reached 35. On Saturday, 34. Figures that cause commotion when combined with intubated people.

228 people came to the intensive care unit. A few weeks ago, scientists said that after 100 patients in the ICU, things would start to get a lot worse. The number more than doubled and chaos ensued. And the sequel seems. Four to five people admitted to the ICU do not return home. The number of intubated people increases every day. The projection in the near future shows the magnitude of the losses to come.

The specialists and the government have taken the last step of the quarantine. But the virus also threatens those who have not been infected. That they are patients with other diseases but cannot receive treatment. Hospital clinics are being dismantled to become COVID, there is no place for people to have surgery, to cure themselves of heart disease, infection.

Hospitals suffocate, the air becomes dangerous for those who work there. The virus is everywhere. And people, more than ever since the pandemic began, travel alone on their last trip.

How long will the quarantine last?

The first quarantine lasted 45 days, no one knows for sure how long it will last this time. However, experts analyze models and talking to MEGA explain what will judge the duration. All this at a time when 62% of ICU beds are already occupied, while, as an intensive care professor explains, 4 out of 10 intubated patients sadly lose the battle and die.

“The exponential growth observed in northern Greece, and especially in Thessaloniki, in the last week was something that exceeded all expectations, with the result that decisions finally came faster.”

The Thessaloniki and Attica hospitals are under the greatest burden, with 75% and 67% fill respectively. Corona virus single beds are also under pressure, with the number of patients reaching 2,059 out of a total of 4,452 beds available. Thessaloniki: empty clinics at AHEPA to create coronavirus beds

“The goal is to reduce the cases so that we can manage the situation as much as possible even before the outbreak that was observed in recent days.”

If the measures are implemented by everyone, experts estimate that on November 30 the country will gradually begin to breathe normality. “In a week we will know where we are going, in two or three weeks we will know where we have arrived.”

A condition for lifting the quarantine is that the cases approach 400 and the number of intubated patients is reduced to 50. Otherwise, the extension of the quarantine will be one-way.

“At the end of November, if all goes well, we can move to the next stage, so measures will gradually be lifted.” However, according to experts, some restrictions will be maintained after the quarantine is lifted, while the mask will accompany us until spring.

Hospitals are suffocating

Hospitals are already suffocating as, in addition to the particularly high number of coronavirus patients, they are also called upon to treat those who need hospitalization for other illnesses.

“The health system is under pressure.” If we continued to move at this rate, we would not reach the hospitals, “EINAP president Matina Pagoni stressed in the” MEGA Weekend “program, usually referring to the period of the October 20-22, during which we had an immediate tripling of cases, while three are the critical parameters: the number of cases, intubated and hospitalized.

Ms Pagoni also stood firm on the pressure received by hospitals not only from coronavirus patients but also from all patients. As he characteristically said, “uncovered patients must be cared for, they must be operated on.” Then there was pressure because not all sections can be covid. “

The pressure on hospitals in Thessaloniki is increasing due to the coronavirus.

It is indicative that until Saturday night 180 people were hospitalized at AHEPA. For days now, patients have been transferred from the ICU to private clinics. The evacuation process from the psychiatric, surgical and neurosurgical clinic is ongoing. Patients are transferred to the psychiatric hospital in Thessaloniki. At the same time, other clinics from the Papanikolaou Hospital were evacuated: ophthalmology, otorhinolaryngology and psychiatric clinic. The goal is to decongest, so that Covid patients can be admitted.

“We must stop the pandemic and reduce the number of patients”

At the same time, the item cited in the same program by Theodoros Vasilakopoulos, Professor of Intensive Care Pulmonology at the University of Athens Faculty of Medicine, is terrifying:

According to the professor, although in a magical way we could multiply by ten the number of hospitals and intensive care units that we have in the country, the problem of mortality from coronavirus would continue, since of those intubated with Covid in ICU, 40-43 % go dead.

“It is necessary to develop as many intensive care beds as possible, which will continue to be a legacy for Greece. But it is not a solution to the pandemic to say that we have thousands of beds either in simple or intensive care,” he said, explaining that if We got to the point of using all these beds we would have millions of dead. “Therefore, we must stop the pandemic and reduce the number of patients,” Vasilakopoulos said, warning that even if the quarantine ends, we will have to learn to live with the coronavirus.

On the table and the design to toggle mini lock

According to epidemiologists, the first 7 days and then the 14 days will show how much longer it will take to control the pandemic in our country. The situation will once again be manageable if the “hard indicators” fall to similar levels to those registered in early October, when cases were in the triple digits and hovered around 400 and intubated ones did not exceed 100. Where did the donations from the first wave go?

According to the experts, if we all follow the measures, in three weeks we will begin to see results with a reduction in cases. Then we can move on to the next stage, with the gradual lifting of the measures. However, protective measures such as wearing a mask indoors and outdoors, distances, and more will be maintained.

Peculiar regularity

Even so, however, the question arises as to how long the new period of peculiar “normality” will last. Reflections on an alternative mini-blockade plan are gaining ground, as, according to its supporters, valuable time is being saved for hospitals to regain their strength, while at the same time experts estimate that citizen compliance will be more dynamic, as there is light in tunnel of restrictions, as reported by Sunday’s Step.

The proposal of Demosthenes Sarigiannis, professor of Environmental Engineering in the Department of Chemical Engineering of the Polytechnic School of the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, moves in this context:

“Our proposal is an alternate mini-blockade. We have made a scheme with 21 days of confinement, 14 days open that after three – four cycles takes us out with 500, 600, at most 800 cases per day during all this time.”

According to the professor, “the most important of all these numbers is the decompression of the public health system, in the sense that the calculations show that if we follow this pattern, it corresponds to no more than 200 ICU beds”.

“Even 3000 cases a day”

According to Professor Sarigiannis, “from about the 10th of the month we expect a peak in the number of cases, perhaps more than 3000, and then we will begin to have a rapid decompression of the situation.”

As he said in statements to Open, “what I hope is that by the 30th of the month we will have reached the close, a little more than 500 boxes and then the economy will open carefully.”
However, he considered that we should take other restrictive measures.

The distribution of cases in the country

Attica and Thessaloniki remain in “red”, of the 1,914 new cases announced on Sunday, 396 are in the capital while 483 in Thessaloniki

Pella, Kilkis and Serres are experiencing an explosion of cases.

More details:

39 cases during controls carried out at the country’s entry gates

3 imported cases that came voluntarily to be examined

396 cases in the Attica region

483 PE Thessaloniki cases, of which 68 are associated with known confluences

7 cases in PE Etoloakarnania

8 cases in PE Argolida

3 cases in PE Arta

18 cases in PE from acaya

1 case in Viotia prefecture

2 cases in PE Grevena

31 cases in PE Drama, of which 2 are associated with known confluences

42 cases in PE Evros, of which 1 is associated with a known confluence

2 cases in PE De Evia

2 cases in PE Evritania

2 cases in PE De Ilia

12 cases in PE Imathia

14 cases in PE Heraklion

2 cases in PE Thesprotia

1 case in PE Θήρας

22 cases in PE Ioannina

41 cases in PE Kavala of which 10 are associated with known confluences

17 cases in PE Karditsa

8 cases in PE Kastoria

3 cases in PE Corfu

1 case in PE from Kefalonia

106 cases in PE Kilkis, of which 2 are associated with a known confluence, while 51 cases are associated with a random sampling action of EODY)

17 cases in PE Kozani

4 cases in PE Corinto

68 cases in PE from Larissa

7 cases in PE Lassithi

16 cases in PE Lesbos

3 cases in PE Lefkada

59 cases in PE Magnesia, of which 9 are associated with known confluences

6 cases in PE from messenia

12 cases in PE Xanthi

1 case in PE Paros

125 cases in PE Pella, of which 1 is associated with a known confluence

65 cases in PE Pieria, of which 5 are associated with known confluences

6 cases in PE Preveza

1 case in PE From Rethymno

24 cases in PE Rodopi, of which 2 are connected by a known confluence

11 cases in PE Rhodes

86 cases in PE Serres, of which 1 is associated with a known confluence

2 cases in PE De tinos

18 cases in PE Trikala, of which 1 is associated with a known confluence

5 cases in PE Fthiotida

10 cases in PE Florina

1 case in PE Φωκίδας

53 cases in PE Halkidiki, of which 2 are connected by a known confluence

15 cases in PE Chania

3 cases in PE Chios

30 cases are under investigation.

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