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In your case Crazy follies two overlapping stories coexist. On the one hand, an unprecedented corporate scandal with global dimensions that opens fertile ground for the development of negative images for the Greek economy and national entrepreneurship. On the other hand, a tragic human story. He is not a little man who completes the eighth decade of his life, the Dimitris Koutsolioutsos, to be taken to a cell in Korydallos.
He talks to us about this human side of his story in an interview-confession, purely personal, of course subjective and therefore of great journalistic value.
Why do you show a man under the effects of a sudden shock, who even in his worst nightmares did not expect that the meeting with the judicial authorities last Friday would result in preventive detention for him and his son and CEO of the company ? George Koutsolioutsou.
But beyond his personal focus 79-year-old businessman, the Folli Follie scandal, a company with a significant international presence, returned to the forefront of the international media the image of a country plagued by corruption. Creating harm not only to investors and bondholders who are at risk of losing their money, but also to Greek companies that are speaking to the international investment community. Much more, as for three years the judicial investigation was “creeping”, the pace did not give the image of a study for the investigation and the officials continued with the business as usual, creating additional questions and suspicions of “bell”. Last Friday, this cycle ended with the preventive detention of Dimitris and George Koutsolioutsou.
The confession of the 79-year-old businessman, in which he gives his personal explanations, but also describes the first 24 hours in jail, certainly arouses great interest. The rest and certainly the most essential for the great scandal is the work of Justice. In these cases, the first contact is made through third parties and communication is by telephone. HE Dimitris Koutsolioutsos agreed not only to answer the phone call, but also for as long as I could answer some of your questions “TOPIC”.
How are you;
What do you want me to say? Can I be here at this age? I am here in a wheelchair. And all these months I have not spoken and now I want to say it. As soon as I get out I’ll tell the truth.
After this professional course you were there …
Do you know my course? What you think; That I left the company after they did all this. In the balance of 2017, which was my last, I had 800 million assets, the bondholders are paid and there was a commitment that they could not make because … now what can I tell you? I don’t want to start blaming. You know what happened? Since the new administrations entered, 350 million have been wasted. Where did they find them? They were found at the company doing nothing.
People are interested in the case.
Yes, but the “first number” does not bode well for me.
Readers ask about new developments.
These new administrations made such a war on me during these two and a half months … And I should have had an objective crisis … Such influence … They gave it to me.
The first 24 hours in jail
His voice from the other end of the line is heard shaking. His emotion is intense and at times it is difficult to maintain his stability. And it breaks …
Of course, there is the human side. He tells us that he is in a wheelchair.
I am one with a wheelchair and another with a cane and two hold me. I faint and fall. Everyone here knows how I am and I don’t want to go to the hospital because I don’t know how to get out.
What wing are you on?
I have fixed myself correctly. I can not tell…
Are you alone in a cell or in a cell?
I am with a man who takes care of me, to move, to lie down, to go to the bathroom, to wash my clothes. I have no problem. I am a man who adapts. I have lived in China for 20 years.
What is it like for a man like you to experience incarceration?
But everyone who saw me here told me that “you shouldn’t be here. You shouldn’t be here.” I have no complaints from anyone here. They are all teachers.
Are you afraid of the coronavirus now?
Yes. Because if I take offense of coronavirusI am old and in very poor health. I belong to the vulnerable groups. Not just vulnerable, but very vulnerable. I have a pacemaker, the uric acid is permanent, I am in poor condition, I cannot walk and I have a problem with my waist.
How is your daily life? What are the difficulties?
So far I have not encountered any difficulties. They look at me because I am a great person with problems. And I suffer here. Everybody sees this. I can’t get out of bed, my back hurts, I can’t even go to the bathroom, there must be someone to take care of me. And fortunately there is a man here, his name is Mr. … He is a treasure.
You haven’t even spent a week in jail …
(Counts the days slowly) I’ve been here for five days.
Are you afraid;
No. If you see me, I’m much younger than I look. And as a spirit.
How do you plan to spend your days from now on?
I read the case file and work on it and on various tax issues. This is how I spend my day. Reading.
When do you have a guest house?
And for me what is provided applies. Do you want to come here to talk?
Have they approached you there to ask you something? Because this happens to people on your surface …
Yes I know. They informed me as soon as I entered so that I would not respond to any of them.
“Me, my family and the bracelet”
Apart from the one in the cell, there is also his family, whom he tried to save by assuming full responsibility for him. Which, however, did not convince the investigator and the prosecutor. The family was scattered. The same in Korydallos, The George Koutsolioutsos It was decided to take him to Trikala Penitentiary and Kaitis’s wife was released on bail of 100,000 euros and restrictive conditions.
You took full responsibility for yourself.
Yes, I took full responsibility.
Her son, George, is in Trikala.
They suffer terribly there.
You spoke with him?
I could not.
With your wife, Mrs. Katie?
Mrs. Katie came and saw me. He sees me.
Have you applied through your attorneys? What movements will you do?
I will see my lawyers for the first time this afternoon (ss .: Tuesday 9/15/20). I must tell you that for 15 months I stayed at home. I did not go out because I was melancholic. But I’ve been working, writing and doing things for months. With a bracelet in my house it would be better.
Will you order a bracelet?
Yes, I don’t know how it will be done. They tell me it’s too early. I’ll be able to tell you after the meeting with my lawyers. I’ll call you again tomorrow to tell you. (ss: he kept his promise and the next morning he called us.) And I tell you all this exclusively because I have other things to tell you. But please, put things as I tell you. Because I will tell you many things.
When you heard the court’s decision on your pre-trial detention, what were your first thoughts?
At first I didn’t expect it because my apology was correct. But with this decision she satisfied the “blood”! But from now on I have to talk. There was no case. But they could put my young son in jail and put a bracelet on me. We usually expected a great guarantee. Nothing else…
As happened with his wife.
Yes, and let them get even bigger.
Financially, how are you doing right now? Can you meet these requirements? I ask him why he has a great fight ahead of him.
There are family and friends. We also have good friends.
So you trust them.
Yes, because my accounts are frozen, as is my entire fortune.
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