Relaxation talk with Anne Will: could be tight again



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Germany breathes a sigh of relief, relaxation after the closing brings people back to normal. But could it be that the opening is too early? Anne Will talks about this with her guests. And the pandemic expert has the clearest opinion.

Everywhere in Germany people are sitting in the parks again, they are allowed to go shopping again, and even some restaurants have already reopened. Germany is relaxing. Corona is over for now, some really think that. Still, the wide openings federal and state governments decided on during the week could be misunderstood. But still, the new normal with a mask is there and you could almost be happy if it weren’t for these doubts: will the loosening come too soon? That’s what Anne Will was about Sunday night.

With FDP veteran Wolfgang Kubicki and Malu Dreyer, prime minister in Rhineland-Palatinate, only two politicians were invited. The Schleswig-Holstein man, who was eager to debate, initially found his antipole not in the SPD representative, but in the scientist Viola Priesemann, who was brought in from Hanover. The physicist is researching at the Max Planck Institute on expansion processes, such as diseases. And he had the clearest opinion on the question of the program: he would have liked to keep the closure.

“It would be great if we could control the outbreak,” he said. “We are almost done.” However, there are still some sources of fire and they have to be extinguished first, the scientist demanded. If the shutdown had been maintained until mid-May, 300 new infections per day would have been possible for the whole of Germany, he said. It would have been “child’s play” to trace the chains of infection. Only then could more freedom be granted again. By way of comparison: Currently around 1000 cases are reported per day. And the infection rate is increasing again.

They all demand more proof

Kubicki, on the other hand, stayed with Will when he said earlier that we were “on the mountain.” It may seem a little carefree compared to the young scientist’s words of warning, but the trained lawyer also had important arguments: “We have had massive restrictions on fundamental rights for weeks,” he said. And now there is the question of whether they are still justified. “If you have an outbreak in a nursing home in Rosenheim, you can’t close schools in Husum,” he said, an example he has given for days.

It always means that cases could also arise, he said. But if it could only be so, that would not be enough for such massive restrictions. Rather, it is based on people’s personal responsibility, after all, that is what our society is based on. “At Timmendorfer Strand, the main thing I experience is that people keep their distance,” he said. So it is important to keep your distance. And if that was guaranteed, no one could be prohibited from starting a business again, opening their restaurant. “Those who are afraid should stay home.”

In this sense, the Bundestag vice-president accepted a request from the physicist Priesemann: that for more tests. He complained that it was only eight weeks too late to talk about mass testing in nursing homes. They should now test as many older people as possible, who have long known that they are at greatest risk. Then his SPD counterpart might still contradict himself with conviction. If you simply try as many as possible to take a look, you won’t find almost any cases, Dreyer said. Therefore, one continues to test specifically in Rhineland-Palatinate after an infection has occurred somewhere. But it’s also fine, “so we tested the environment, the workforce,” said the deputy head of the SPD.

Health departments demand more staff

When it came to football, Kubicki was also the one who defended the current regulation, that is, the resumption of the Bundesliga. He believes it will help calm large sections of the population. As a passionate fan, you can no longer see the canned food from the last World Cup. Here, the former President of the German Ethics Council, Peter Dabrock, opposed this. According to theologians, the fact that players are regularly tested is a preferential treatment. He required that all tests, 100 percent, be available to risk groups, such as in nursing homes. He agreed with Dreyer that access to such tests should not be dependent on the wallet. Kubicki, in turn, agreed that a tracking app was also part of the new normal.

After all, the representative of the health authorities, Ute Teichert, assured that they were well qualified to trace the infection chains. So is everything ok? Not entirely: he vehemently demanded more staff, the offices had been saved in recent years. His dramatic description raised questions about whether the offices, despite reinforcements from the Robert Koch Institute, can actually trace every chain of infection. It was evident to everyone on the show, it was evident to the show. And exactly that, the behavior of each individual, will decide if the relaxation course will be successful or if it will lead to a second wave of infections.

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