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Almost two weeks have passed since Ursula Haverbeck was able to get out of Bielefeld prison after two and a half years. Haverbeck is 92 years old. She was convicted of sedition. And because of the sedition, he is now on trial again this Tuesday. This time before the Berlin-Tiergarten district court. Again he faces a prison sentence.
The woman with the gray bow tie is a notorious Holocaust denier. She is a widow, has no children and does not want to tell the judge the amount of her pension. “I’m not saying that”. When asked what work she does, she said she was involved in “adult political education.” First, she and her husband dealt with “environmental” issues, then “they noticed more and more how much German legal life had been destroyed.” Some of his fans gather in front of the room that day. A woman gives Haverbeck a yellow rose and kisses her on the cheek.
In the 2019 European elections, he ran for the Nazi party “Dierechte”. According to the indictment, Haverbeck downplayed Nazi crimes and denied the Holocaust in an interview with a YouTuber calling himself “Volkslehrer.” In the video, he asked “to work so that this lie, this burden of debt”, which is on the German people, is “lifted”. The video was posted on the Internet in March 2018. In it, Haverbeck denies the mass murder of six million Jews, industrially organized by the National Socialists. When World War II started, Haverbeck was ten years old.
The judge plays the video for approximately 15 minutes in the hallway. Haverbeck can be heard saying that he never got an answer to the question “where the six million Jews were gassed.” Haverbeck stands on the judge’s table, looks at the judge’s laptop, and looks happy.
“Yes, I would like to express myself”
The 92-year-old woman comes from North Rhine-Westphalia and says in court that this is the tenth trial against her. Two more convictions for sedition, one for six and one for ten months, are not yet final. It cannot be said that the old woman was impressed by the convictions. On the contrary. He even uses the courtroom as a stage for his propaganda.
The judge instructs the defendant that she does not have to comment on the allegations. “Yes, I would like to express myself,” says Haverbeck. Then he repeats the statements for which he is accused. “I want to know where the six million were supposed to be gassed. Now please say: Where did that happen? ”. Neither the prosecutor nor the judge were able to present the Holocaust as fact. “You have never experienced that.” Auschwitz was not an extermination camp and Zyklon B “was not at all suitable for mass murder,” says Haverbeck.
“Extremely hard to hear”
You just ask questions, says Haverbeck: “I didn’t deny anything at all.” Haverbeck sees herself as a fighter for free speech – that has been her staging for years – and as a victim. “I find this procedure very questionable,” he explains. Joining her is her defense attorney, Wolfram Nahrath. The lawyer was once the “federal leader” of the now-banned right-wing extremist “Wiking Jugend”, like his father and grandfather before him. That day, Nahrath calls the six million murdered Jews a “number of victims worldwide.”
Before the indictment was read, Nahrath had requested a stay of the trial. “In the course of the arrest,” Haverbeck had “become extremely difficult to hear.”
He tells the judge, “She can’t understand you.”
“I don’t understand a word,” confirms your client.
But the judge is ready. Haverbeck puts on a headset and the judge speaks into a microphone from now on. “Yes, now I understand you,” says Haverbeck.
On this day, Nahrath will make several more motions to suspend or terminate the proceedings. Unsuccessfully.
The judge had only scheduled one trial day. But Nahrath doesn’t want to beg just yet. Instead, make a new app. The “Volkslehrer” must testify as a witness. You will claim that you have not informed your client that the conversation will be published. And Haverbeck did not accept the publication either.
The YouTuber named »Volkslehrer« was already in court that day. I was filming in front of the room. A court spokeswoman asked him to show her his filming permit and press identification. The press card seemed dubious to him. Nikolai N., a former elementary school teacher in Berlin, protested loudly. He was also tried for sedition. Due to his interview with Haverbeck, the prosecution is also investigating him. Justice officials told Nikolai N. to leave court. When he did not obey the invitation, they took him by the arms, Nikolai N. dropped down, yelled “Schikane” and was carried out. His camera kept rolling. On December 4, he will appear as a witness.
