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The journalist, in her program on Semana Tv, wanted to hear two opposing positions on the act carried out by various indigenous communities in Cauca, which demolished the statue of the conqueror.
The one who initiated the discussion was the senator and indigenous leader Feliciano Valencia, who said that this act represents leaving behind “times of pain, humiliation and forgetfulness”, as well as the “injustices that have been committed” against minorities from the time of conquest and colonization until, according to him, today.
“It is a shame that they knock down statues,” replied Senator María Fernanda Cabal, and said that “you cannot deny the story, even though you don’t like it.”
And he added: “The indigenous people of Cauca decided to copy what the ‘Black Lives Matters’ movement is doing, which demolished the statue of a very famous black abolitionist” in the United States, and said that this is a way of “excusing his vandalism and violence” after “an unpayable debt”.
In turn, Senator Valencia undertook it against his colleague in the middle of the interview:
“I understand her, because she was born and raised in an environment that has always discriminated against poor people, and I think, with more reason against indigenous people. Surely she still considers us as animals, as incipient beings, and it is not the first time, whenever I listen to her she has that feeling of hatred for the original peoples ”.
After that, it was Senator Cabal’s turn, who described as “regrettable the amount of verbal attacks I receive from Feliciano Valencia, when I have lots of indigenous and black friends whom I love with all my soul”.
“That makes me laugh, because he describes me as the left has caricatured me, and of course, Feliciano, those who discriminate are you, because the indigenous peoples want to leave the CRIC Organization, they are desperate, because indigenous like Feliciano, they are copying, like the communists, the elites against whom they are fighting, ”said the congresswoman.
The discussion between the two continued, because while the one defended that the natives knocked down the statue, the other maintained that it was nothing more than an act of vandalism, and those of the arguments went on to personal attacks.
Dávila tried to mediate to lower the tone of the debate, and in the end, Senator Valencia invited his colleague Cabal to visit the indigenous territory in Cauca to see, personally, all the needs that these peoples go through in the face of the “forgetfulness of the State”.
This is the complete debate between the two senators, on Semana Tv:
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