Gordon interviewed Poklonskaya. Why is Ukraine called political masochism and a slap in the face?

During the occupation and annexation of Crimea, Poklonskaya in Ukraine became one of the symbols of these illegal actions, practically leaving television screens and online publication pages with harsh statements about the protests in Maidan, which led to the overthrow of the President Viktor Yanukovych, and criticism from the new Ukrainian authorities.

The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine placed her on the list of persons wanted under Article 109, paragraph 1 of the Penal Code: “actions taken to forcibly change or overthrow the constitutional order or seize state power, as well as conspire to commit such actions. “

What was the interview about?

Gordon’s interview with Poklonskaya came out on YouTube the night of May 11, and in less than a day it garnered more than 550,000 views. It starts with a brief explanation from Gordon on why he decided to do it. The journalist noted that he has been searching for the truth his whole life and many people he interviewed are “historical figures. “

“I think the history textbooks will be compiled precisely from these interviews,” said the journalist.

He thanked Poklonskaya for accepting an interview and called it a brave step.

In an interview, among other things, Poklonskaya repeated that he considered Maidan as “Deception and coup d’etat of all Ukraine. She said she did not vote for Viktor Yanukovich, “but he was my president.” Crimea not recognized by the world community “the referendum on joining Russia “called a forced measure:” They forced us. “He claimed he did not know about the” green men “: the unmarked Russian army that captured Crimea. The former” prosecutor “emphasized that “Crimea is not a bag of potatoes, it cannot be returned. ”

Poklonskaya said that the President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky has real estate in Crimea and can use it safely. She also congratulated him, calling her a talented person, and admitted that she would vote for him in the presidential elections in Ukraine.

In addition, Poklonskaya repeated several different accusations against the Ukrainian director and former political prisoner Oleg Sentsov, the head of the Crimean Tatar people Mejlis Refat Chubarov and the leader of the Crimean Tatar people Mustafa Dzhemilev.

“On the brink of political masochism”

Head of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people (whose activity in occupied Crimea was illegally banned on the initiative of Natalia Poklonskaya – ed.) Refat Chubarov, commenting in this interview, wrote on his Facebook page that “and journalists should be on the verge of disgust. “

He claimed that an interview with a war criminal in the country in which the criminal was committed was possible only after the investigation was completed and the case file was transferred to court.

“In this case, the person who committed the war crime realizes that he will not be able to blatantly lie, as he is limited by the body of evidence already recorded in the investigative materials, “Chubarov said.

Poklonskaya, which is located “in the absolute scope of Ukrainian justice “, thanks to this interview “I had the opportunity to lie and speak nonsense throughout Ukraine, against which Poklonskaya committed war crimes, “wrote the head of Mejlis.

Chubarov added that he leaves the decision on how the interview with Poklonskaya corresponds to the principles and standards of free journalism for the journalistic community.

“But to provide an opportunity for a war criminal who is still successfully avoiding punishment for his crimes against Ukraine, to spread his lies with the help of the Ukrainian media or a Ukrainian journalist, this is on the verge of political masochism and is a demonstration of negligence of the fate of hundreds of people illegally deprived of their liberty in Crimea. as a result of the crimes committed by Poklonskaya ”, summarized Chubarov.

“Poklonskaya will not be considered the voice of the Crimeans”

The Permanent Representative of the President of Ukraine in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Anton Korenevich, on his Facebook page stated that “The only interviews and conversations with people accused of serious crimes. (in particular, crimes against the foundations of Ukraine’s national security, war crimes, the prosecution of pro-Ukrainian activists and the illegal prohibition of the activities of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people), which we can hear and hear, these are the testimonies of these people in the context of the relevant criminal proceedings in the state of the accused. “

He stressed that those people must be held accountable for high treason and war crimes.

Korenevich also pointed out that the people who directly contributed to the occupation of part of the territory of Ukraine “cannot and will not be considered the voice of the Crimeans”, because they distort the truth and the facts in their statements.

“Ukrainian law enforcement agencies and international criminal justice authorities will provide a proper assessment of the actions of a Ukrainian citizen Poklonskaya N., ”summarized the Permanent Representative of the President of Ukraine in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea.

“This interview is a slap in the face of Ukraine and the Crimean Tatars”

Irina Gerashchenko, co-chair of the European Solidarity faction in the Verkhovna Rada, recalled on her Facebook page that Poklonskaya was involved in the illegal prosecution of Ukrainian director Oleg Sentsov and falsified cases against Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars.

“This interview is a slap in the face of Ukraine. Crimean Tatars who are in the prisons of occupied Crimea. Boys released from Russian prisons. A slap in the face to all of us, ”writes Gerashchenko.

She calls gordon “skillful deceiver “and points out that” does nothing for nothing. “

“Revenge and the special operation of Ukraine’s return to the bosom of Moscow, to its field of information and propaganda, continue. Where can we interview and thank the enemy for our torture? “Said the co-president of the European Solidarity faction.

Gerashchenko also expressed the opinion that the Rada Profile Committee, the Ministry, the Ukrainian Security Service, the Office of the Prosecutor General, the Office of the President and the National Council should respond to Gordon’s interview with Poklonskaya. (probably – National Television and Radio Broadcasting Council – ed.).

“Gordon could be a good head waiter”

Journalist Pavel Kazarin, commenting on the interview, did not mention Poklonskaya at all.

Gordon calls “impersonator “who “successfully pretending to be a journalist “and” learned to scold something abstract so as not to fight someone specific “.

Kazarin expressed the opinion that Gordon’s only talent was to please the guests, because “he learned to agree in the frame.”

“There is no independent value in it. He lives in the reflected light. Confirmation of this: all those celebrity photos with which he pasted the entrance to his editorial office. I don’t think at least one of his guests has posted a photo of Gordon himself at home, “said the journalist.

Kazarin also sarcastically compares Gordon’s journalistic activities with the job of the head waiter.

“It would be a good head of waiters. I would collect tables and menus for visitors. He would give compliments and receive advice. Actually, he is doing it now, but for some reason he calls it journalism, ”he writes.

“You cannot give schizophrenic delirium without explaining the context”

Andrei Yanitsky, head of the Center for Economic Journalism at the Kiev School of Economics, wrote on his Facebook page commenting on Gordon’s interview with Poklonskaya that the journalist can interview anyone.

“A journalist has the right to ask questions. Even serial killers, even war criminals. If this is really in the public interest, why not? “He points out.

At the same time, Yanitsky emphasizes that ““You can’t say schizophrenic nonsense, lies, or populism” in the air “without clarifying the context, without checking the facts, without editing.”

“There are great questions for Gordon ”, writes the journalist. In his opinion, Gordon either intentionally or unintentionally made a mistake by posting an interview with Poklonskaya in the form of an uncut live stream.

“Certain sharp questions and Gordon’s comments, mainly in the second part of the conversation, did not save the situation. Poklonskaya in the first part of the conversation uttered all the propaganda cliches he wanted to say, sometimes several times. And Gordon did not react to many, “believes the journalist.

Gordon and Poklonskaya “Ukrainian special services must be contracted ”

Espreso journalist Sergei Rudenko wrote on his Facebook page that, in his opinion, both Gordon and Poklonskaya “Special Ukrainian services must be contracted. “

“What Gordon does is the conscious destruction of the Ukrainian information space, which has nothing to do with freedom of expression. It is impossible to make a good and wonderful interlocutor of the traitor of Ukraine and bow: “you are a great lawyer, I think.” A traitor should be in prison, “says the journalist.

“Gordon is not something that breaks the bottom. This is worse “.

The leader of the Ukrainian Ukrainian public organization and blogger Andrei Smoly on his Facebook page calls Gordon’s interview with Russia’s Poklonskaya Information Offensive.

“Gordon is not just breaking the bottom. This is the worst Frank demonstration and humiliation of Ukraine. The propaganda of separatism ”, he writes.

Smoly believes that the Ukrainian authorities “enjoy pro-Russian elements. “

“It is Zelensky’s authority that allows open rashism on television, ignoring the laws and conducting “dialogues” with “DPR / LPR”. So nothing surprising. We are moving to where we should move with such power ”, the blogger is sure.

In another post, Smoliy predicts that Poklonskaya in Gordon is just the beginning and will continue. “worse and more painful. “

“Gordon has joined the television channels of the Medvedchukovsky group”

Blogger and political scientist Alexei Golubutsky writes that, at first glance, from Gordon’s interview with Poklonskaya, the impression was that “Gordon invited Nyasha to show everyone once again how stupid she was. “

However, this does not mean that he decided to become “political troll. “

“In Nyashi’s idiocy (and choosing such a nice and stupid figure for a clearly “programmatic” interview with a traitor) was a very specific need. This is the legitimation of the enemy and the traitor: “Well, look, they are incredibly stupid, even cute, and therefore quite safe for themselves.” Gordon joined the Medvedchuk group television channels in filling the Ukrainian information space with the muzzles of traitors and enemies as completely acceptable and familiar characters, sometimes positive, “believes the political scientist.

Golobutsky suggested that this could be the beginning of the transition from armed war with the Russian Federation to that of information.