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Former Ukrainian Finance Minister Igor Umansky, in an interview with the editor-in-chief of the GORDON publication, Alesa Batsman, which now airs on YouTube, said that he had not argued with the head of the President’s Office, Andriy Yermak , his dismissal from the position of advisor.
“Before applying, I did not have a conversation with him. The last time we saw him was somewhere on September 28 or 30, around this time. We had a preliminary conversation that I was six months old, overall, [в Офисе президента] doing nothing. The meaning of staying in this state is incomprehensible to me, so I will most likely leave. To this Andrei said, “Okay, let’s talk to you and see what we do next.” Another month and a half has passed, nothing happens. I made a decision and wrote a statement ” – said Umansky.
The politician confirmed that about his dismissal Ermak learned from social media.
“[Да, узнал об увольнении из моего поста в Facebook]… He called. He stated why, [мол], you didn’t tell me. I replied, “Look, I warned you a month and a half ago.” – “Let’s go like this: now I am in quarantine, in treatment, I will finish the treatment, I will go [из больницы] – and we’ll talk to you. “I replied,” Okay, we’ll talk. “This ended the conversation. While he’s still sick, – Umansky pointed out.
Batsman suggested that it is not very pleasant to learn of the firing of his media adviser.
“On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, sooner or later it was necessary to make some decisions. When you give some materials, some suggestions and this ends in nothing, you understand that the effectiveness of such work tends to zero.” Well then I’ll do it publicly ” – The former minister explained his motivation.
He noted that he did not discuss his departure from the Office of the President with Head of State Volodymyr Zelensky.
“The last conversation I had with him was [весной] Before mine we left the Ministry of Finance. After that, we never spoke ” – Umansky clarified.
He recalled that he became an advisor to Yermak after his dismissal from the Ministry of Finance, and stressed that he acceded to this position for the sake of changes.
“After I left the Ministry of Finance and made a statement on systemic problems in both the tax and customs services, Ermak called me and said:“ Look, we are not satisfied with this situation. We want to close the case with schemes in the tax authorities and clean up this situation. “They offered me the position of advisor to help them understand what was happening there, and they suggested, highlighted where to go deeper. It would be strange to disagree: you go out, you They say there are problems, they tell you: “Well, let’s fix them” – and suddenly you refuse. I agreed. The customs administration has changed four times, the tax administration has changed, but the systemic problems have not disappeared. I assigned a maximum of six months for this case. I understood that if this schematic system is not destroyed, it will never be destroyed in the near future ” – said Umansky.
In his opinion, the situation with the tax authorities in Ukraine this year has only gotten worse, first of all it comes to the so-called twisting – the scheme of illegal VAT refunds (how the scheme works, said the former minister in an interview with the founder of the publication “GORDON” Dmitry Gordon in April).
“At customs, the fiscal situation not only did not improve, it unfortunately worsened. Skrut remained as it was. law enforcement officers met three times in Bankova on this issue. But in the middle of the summer, the program began to work fully ” – said Umansky.
According to, every month due to this scheme, the budget loses 4.5–4.8 billion hryvnias.
“This is just a direct ‘twist’ that we can see through the system. The tax authorities see this too, because we see it through their system. And this is only in a diagram! Of course, it is the largest in volume, – Said the former minister. – Naturally, I passed this information on to Bankova … Six months passed, some law enforcement officers became obscenely richer. And now, as far as I know, within the framework of the investigative actions, they have already begun to enter into a great systemic business, which is involved in this program by “twisting”. To my understanding, it will end with nothing but treatment. And then there is the situation with Ukravtodor, the end of the year, there is a month and a half left, we entered the second wave of the pandemic … The omens of the economic apocalypse have been hovering in the sky for a long time, and the doctor, here . [появились]… 26 billion in the “covid” fund has not yet been spent. It is my deepest belief that you have to focus on medicine … A month and a half ago I gave you this information, but unfortunately, we see what we see: the money was not returned to the doctors. That is why I went out publicly and recorded: the situation with the ‘turn’ has not been resolved, the case has failed (at least for today), the situation with medicine – the case has failed, the situation in the budgetary sphere is extremely critical ”.
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Umansky worked three times in senior positions in the Ministry of Finance of Ukraine. In 2008-2010 he was the first deputy minister, in 2009-2010 – acting. Minister. The last time you worked as Finance Minister for less than a month, March 4-30, 2020.
Umansky said he had not worked well with Prime Minister Denis Shmygal. “Why did they dismiss me? A manual minister was needed. Shmygal must realize: he is not a manager in a company where he has subordinates. The government is a collegiate body, and he is a member of the Cabinet of Ministers, like other ministers,” said the former minister. …
In April, Yermak announced that Umansky would become an adviser to the chief The office of the president and will deal with corruption issues in customs and tax authorities. In November, Umansky criticized the authorities’ decision to introduce a “weekend quarantine” in Ukraine and resigned from the PSU.
