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What they say about Lukashenka and the protests in the towns of the Ukraine-Belarus border
Relations between Ukraine and Belarus are deteriorating. Recently, the Ukrainian authorities officially condemned Minsk and Alexander Lukashenko for non-transparent elections. And even before these events, the leaderships of the countries “broke the pots” for history with the “Wagnerists”.
But this is at the highest level. “Strana” decided to find out what Ukrainians who literally live next to “syabry” think about the situation in Belarus.
The special correspondent of the “Strana” Antonina Beloglazova traveled to the villages of Ukraine on the border with Belarus and spoke with their residents. They said whether they support Lukashenka and how their peoples live compared to Belarusians.
“Everyone will go to work in Poland”
A resident of the village of Lyubech assessed the standard of living in the villages of Ukraine and Belarus on a 10-point scale.
“In our village it is zero, in Belarus it is 8 points … I cannot even make a cemetery here. People are buried and bones are dug up, they are buried sideways,” he said.
Another Lyubech resident said that perhaps Lukashenka was wrong, that he spoke so harshly against the people, but that they too would think about what they would do.
“There will be no collective farms, everyone will go to work in Poland. Let the Belarusians think about whether they want to work, because in Ukraine there is no work. It will be the same in Belarus.” machine, and you need to do something else at home. And if the collective farm were native, it would earn money at home ”- shared the woman.
According to her, the time will come and Belarusians will remember life under Lukashenka as good times.
“Lukashenka makes sure that nobody loots anything, and his parents, like ours, want to profit, and that’s all … There the pensions are good and the young people are against it, life moves on, but they still don’t understand what will this lead to. in Ukraine: when you arrive in a village, half the houses are empty, “they said in Lyubech.
In the town of Mysy, the protests are believed to be mainly attended by young people who are paid for it.
“If they lose Lukashenka, they will lose Belarus,” the Mys resident is sure.
In his opinion, the Verkhovna Rada should not have expressed its position on the elections in the neighboring country: “They cannot do anything in their own country, but they accept that the elections in Belarus are invalid and Lukashenka is not the president.”
“Let them decide”
In Gubichi village, some retirees say they “don’t need Belarus,” so they are reluctant to talk about it.
“Let the people decide for themselves. They live there. Let them decide their own affairs. That’s all,” they answer the question about their attitude to the events in Belarus.
But overall, Lukashenka was evaluated in the village as a good manager. “He is a good leader. But we do not live there, what are we going to (say). We will say one thing, and then … that’s it. We do not support the protests, we do not conceive. Let them do what they want,” he agrees. neighbors with a friend.
“In the cities, they are fighting for a penny, and money for their pocket. What do we know? That Ukraine, that Belarus, that the Russians are all normal and equal to each other. And whoever has money, shares power or something else. That’s all the difference. Whoever has more money is the boss. Whoever has little money, everyone lives in peace, “says a neighbor from the village of Gubichi, who said that he himself was Russian.
At the same time, the conversations often revolve around their own problems. Villagers complain that traveling between countries has become more difficult and that life was better before Maidan.
“Now you can’t go to Russia, you need some kind of invitation. Everyone has stopped. There are no planes, no trains, no buses. Family members live there, they are already retired, they can’t bury them, nothing. All connections have stopped, but who is facilitating it … “. An ordinary person is only worse. They promised to add a pension – they add a penny and that’s it. Before Maidan’s life was better “, admits the respondent to” Strana “.
Another elderly woman interviewed by Strana journalists says she has a positive attitude towards the protests in Belarus, although she admits that this is unlikely to change anything.
“I have a positive attitude. Because people want to live better. Although that does not help at all. Maybe they are doing well, but something must have become painful since they came out of the closet.”
According to the retiree, many Belarusians live in the village; some support Lukashenka, others do not. The woman does not trust much of the radical protests. Recalling the events of the Maidan and their aftermath, she admits that nothing has changed for the better. They say that “they were old and remain.”
“There’s nothing here. How’s life going? No school, no FAP (feldesher-midwife station – Ed.), soon the town council will not be. There are already those people. One or two yes and failed. And all the elderly, ”says a local resident.
At the same time, the village urgently needs medical assistance. They say you can’t get to the ambulance. Chernigov decides everything: if he gives the go-ahead, then maybe the ambulance will come, but no, so at least he dies.
“If you push Lukashenka aside, that’s it. Beggars.”
In the village of Nedanchichi, they say that Belarusians often come to them to eat. “They go to Chernihiv to buy all the food. We are not there because we have no money. They come, buy everything and go home,” says a local resident, comparing the standard of living in the villages on the other side of the border.
Her friend rates life in Ukraine an order of magnitude lower due to the quality of the roads, dead infrastructure, and desolation:
“Our standard of living is an order of magnitude lower than in Belarus. Take a look at our fields and theirs. At our roads and ruins, and the roads of Belarus. If it weren’t for Slavutych and the station, no one would work. in the village. Men Women too (he waved his hand), there is no work. “
In the village, according to the stories of the women, only elderly people remained. The young people went to the city or to work: “We drove. And what can we do here. [Осталось] old things. Such cabinets (in Russian “nag”), like us “.
At the same time, women complain about a low pension of 2,000 hryvnia, which is barely enough to earn a living. And they survive at the cost of the economy: “Ishachim from dark to dark, there are streaks and ducks, there are chickens. But there are no forces. There is no one to work this year,” they admit.
They call Lukashenka a “normal man” who holds the country firmly in his hands and is engaged in construction, who does not have foreign villas on the islands, like our Ukrainian rulers.
“Well of course Lukashenka got tired of it for 25 years. But there is no better thing if they put that Lukashenka aside … but there are no Belarusians protesting … but we protested. They took us to Europe and NATO “. Naked booty in Europe “, – the women are outraged.
They compare the protests on the Maidan and in Belarus: “These protests were shown in Minsk, the road is the same. … I would put 20 people in 2 by 3 cells, but leave them there. What did the Maidan give us? Exactly me? … there was a pension of 150 dollars, but now there is not 70 dollars … A hundred times worse than ours. You just have to push Lukashenka aside. And that’s it. Beggars, “say residents competing with each other.
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