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On November 6 and 7, a seminar on the “Fifth Anniversary of the Horse Xi Jinping Club” was held in Beijing and Taipei, respectively. China is dominated by the Taiwan Affairs Office of the State Council, and the Ma Ying-jeou Foundation is one of the hosts in Taiwan. There seems to be an unspoken understanding between the two sides of the strait.

Former President Ma Ying-jeou appealed to Tsai Ing-wen at the seminar on the 7th in Taipei, based on the results of the Ma Xihui meeting, asking Tsai to return to the 1992 consensus expressed by First China and to “avoid war and seek peace” between the two sides of the strait. He did not forget to emphasize The 1992 Consensus is based on the idea that when he took office in 2008, he proposed to maintain the status quo of the Taiwan Strait “without unification, without independence, without army.”

Indeed, if Ma Xihui is the latest climax of Ma Ying-jeou’s promotion of cross-strait relations during his tenure, “no reunification, no independence, no army” is his prelude.

According to relevant sources from “Apple News”, after Ma Ying-jeou won the presidential election on March 22, 2008, a mysterious group of merchants went to Beijing, Shanghai and other places to meet with high-level Chinese officials and teach him. conveyed on the other side that “no The six-character cross-strait political leadership of” unification, no independence, no military force “, some people even consider this group of merchants as a secret envoy to help Ma Ying-jeou to deliver an olive branch to the other side.

On April 7 of that year, the delegation met for the first time with Xu Jialu, then vice president of the Standing Committee of the Chinese People’s Congress; On April 8, they met with the former vice minister of the China United Front Labor Department and the first vice president of the China Federation of Industry and Commerce. Hu Deping; On April 11 and 15, they met with Ji Ping, deputy director of the Shanghai Taiwan Affairs Office, and Tian Guiming, director of the Tianjin Foreign Affairs Office, respectively.

Participants revealed that although most of the more than ten people in the delegation simply continued to eat and drink, in fact, prior to departure, some members knew that this trip was to convey Ma Ying’s attitude to Chinese officials. -jeou across the Straits as “without unification, without independence, without military.” This means that during the presidency of Ma Ying-jeou, he will not declare Taiwan independence and is not willing to reunify. I hope China does not use force against Taiwan.

And more than a month after the business delegation visited China, Ma Ying-jeou also wrote in his 520 inaugural address: “We will use the concept of” no unification, no independence and no army “which is more in line with opinion. Taiwan’s dominant public in the ROC constitutional framework. Then, maintain the status quo of the Taiwan Strait ”and other important texts.

Relevant people pointed out that China felt that Ma was “extremely courteous” to Ma Ying-jeou’s move. Thus, cross-strait relations developed particularly smoothly. In November of that year, Chen Yunlin, the president of the China Maritime Association, was able to come to Taiwan as an example.

According to the “Apple” survey, this group of merchants is dominated by members of the ROC Industrial and Commercial Construction Research Association. The CABR has always been friendlier to the Kuomintang in the past, and its relationship with Ma Ying-jeou is even closer, it is understood that Ma Rennet participated in the activities of the CABR 10 times.

At this corporate event, which on the surface seemed like a private itinerary, Sun Yangming, a “consultant” for the delegation, actually had a special identity.

In his early years, Sun Yangming was a reporter for the media. He was interviewed at the scene during the 1989 “June 4 Incident” in China. He has been in contact with people and issues on both sides of the strait and diplomacy. He is also a senior adviser on cross-strait policy in Ma Ying-jeou and the first secretary of the National Security Council in Malaysia. A student of Chang Su Qi. When Ma ran for president, Sun Yangming assisted Su Qi at headquarters, who is responsible for political research, foreign affairs and across the Straits.

According to the “Apple” survey, Ma Ying-jeou’s policy of “no unification, no independence, no military force” originated from Su Qi.

Su Qi mentioned in his book “Twenty Years of Waves Across the Straits” that he proposed this concept when he was a legislator in 2006. In 2007, when the vice presidential candidate of the Kuomintang Xiao Wanchang visited the United States, this concept was also written Later , Ma Ying-jeou saw the speech and agreed with it. When he visited Japan, he started proposing. Originally, Su Qi wrote “No independence, no reunification, no army”, but the order was changed to “No reunification, no independence, no army”.

At that time, the delegation had two main contacts: one was Xu Jialu, then vice chairman of the Standing Committee of the Chinese People’s Congress.

The Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress is the permanent organ of the National People’s Congress, the highest “nominal” state authority in China. Xu Jialu served as vice chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress for 10 years, from 1998 to 2008. After retiring, he visited Taiwan and was called “from cross-strait exchanges.” , The continent’s highest-level national leader to retreat to Taiwan. “

According to the participants, Hu Jintao, who was then general secretary of the Communist Party of China, was suppressed by Jiang Zemin, but still held power. Xu Jialu was highly valued by Hu Jintao. Hu Jintao respected Xu Jialu as a teacher and even went to Xu Jialu’s house for lunch every week. Xu Jialu is considered a must see person for this visit.

Another senior Chinese official the delegation will meet is Hu Deping, who was the former deputy head of the United Front China Labor Department. Hu Deping is also the son of Hu Yaobang, former secretary general of the Communist Party of China.

After completing this mission, Sun Yangming served as deputy executive director of the “Vision Foundation”, a group of experts that has always been closely associated with the National Security Council, in October 2008. He continued to conduct his research and exchanges of information on cross-strait and US relations. character of.

After Ma Ying-jeou resigned, Sun Yangming worked at the “Green Goose Peace Education Foundation” of Hong Xiuzhu, the former chairman of the Kuomintang. Last month he also went to China with Hong Xiuzhu to participate in the Cross-Strait Youth Development Forum and met with Liu Jieyi, director of the Office of Taiwan Affairs in China.

Someone involved told Apple that they believed that during this visit, the Bank of China had delivered “two letters” to Xu Jialu and Hu Deping respectively to ensure that Ma Ying-jeou’s message was conveyed to senior Zhongnanhai officials. However, Sun Yangming firmly denied it.

Some participants also told Apple that the delegation’s budget was around 700,000 to 800,000 yuan sponsored by the CABR, but most of the itinerary was planned and directed by Sun Yangming, from the invitation list, people to meet in China and places to meet. It was Sun Yangming who decided and got in touch. Sun Yangming also severely denied this, asking Apple to ask then-vice president of the China Construction Research Institute, Wu Jialin. Wu Jialin replied to Apple: “It’s been so long that I can’t remember.”

Sun Yangming only confirmed to “Apple” that in 2008 he visited Xu Jialu and Hu Deping with CABR, but denied that there was a “secret” mission. He stressed that there were absolutely no letters on the trip, “I didn’t take it myself, and I don’t know if others have it.” He said he was just a “little boy” and was not acting as an emissary.

Sun Yangming noted that he was invited by the Industrial and Commercial Construction Research Institute because he met Xu Jialu and Hu Deping from their first interviews. He does not deny that because Ma had just been elected at the time, the other party was also curious about the horse, and because he was Su Qi’s assistant during the election campaign in Malaysia, he was familiar with the policies of Malaysia through across the Strait, so of course the other party would discuss cross-strait relations with him.

Sun Yangming said that he had told people on the other side that Ma Ying-jeou was opposed to Taiwan’s independence and would uphold the 1992 consensus, but he never mentioned “neither unification, nor independence, nor military force,” but according to his feelings, the other side still treated Ma Ying-jeou “not much”. Familiar with. “Fan Zhiming, another media person with him, also gave Xu Jialu a copy of” Young Ma Ying-jeou “for them to meet Ma Ying-jeou.

Sun Yangming also mentioned that he went to work as a consultant at the time. Because he was worried about the bad influence, he asked Su Qi if he should go, and Su Qi told him, “Listen to what they (referring to the Chinese) think.”

“Apple” also asked Su Qi about this delegation. Su Qi said that he did know Sun Yangming. Sun may have argued with him before he left, but Sun was not a secret envoy and he would not represent Ma Ying-jeou.

The reporter asked Su Qi, is it someone else representing Ma Ying-jeou? Su Qi said frankly, “The two sides (referring to Ma Ying-jeou and China) certainly have communication.” The reporter reconfirmed and asked, “So Ma Ying-jeou has channels, but not Sun?” Su Qi said: “There must be channels”, and politicians have channels, but “no reunification, no independence, no military” was already declared publicly at that time. It is very white, it is not necessary to transmit it separately.

Su Qi also told reporters that he knew who the pipeline was, but only revealed that Ma Ying-jeou was the chairman of the Kuomintang party before taking office and during the election campaign, so the pipeline on the other side is the ” Kuomintang pipeline. “

Su Qi also added that he believes that the government and the government should establish channels. Even if they hate each other, they should be communicated in the public interest. Therefore, he believes that Ma Ying-jeou and other politicians have channels to the other side is a positive thing. He also strongly suggests current President Tsai Ing-wen should break his ideology and establish an oil pipeline with the mainland.

However, regarding the mission of the secret envoy, Xiao Xucen, executive director of the Ma Ying-jeou Foundation, said in an interview with “Apple”: “There is nothing like this.”

Xiao Xucen said that in April 2008, Ma Ying-jeou and possible Vice President Xiao Wanchang had already met with then-Chinese President Hu Jintao at the Boao Forum. Xiao also proposed a vision across the Straits, so he did not believe that a secret envoy was needed at the time.

Xiao Xucen also emphasized that Ma Ying-jeou did not establish other private channels of communication at that time. The contact across the Strait was the Xiaohu Association. One of Ma Ying-jeou’s consistent political goals was to pursue the institutionalization of the two sides of the strait, including the subsequent restoration of the two associations. “(Lin Qiaoyan from the Finance Center, Cheng Yuanshu from the Research Center / Full Report)

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