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CBS News’ 60 Minutes program will air on Sunday. But even after Tuesday’s recording, it was clear that the atmosphere between reporter Lesley Stahl and the two interviewees, President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence, was not the best.
Trump also came out of the interview before it was completed.
Trump himself quickly came out and accused Stahl of being biased, calling the interview “a scam.”
Since the White House also recorded the interview, 60 Minutes editorial staff were promised that the film would only be used for the White House archive and would not air.
But that promise broke Trump on Thursday when he posted it on his own Facebook page.
Donald Trump affirms in the interview that he and his administration have created the best economic situation the United States “has ever had” and is later questioned by Stahl who says:
– You know this is not true. Not.
An answer that makes Trump go on the counterattack and question whether Stahl would have dared to ask that question to Democrat Joe Biden. Something to which he returns several times during the interview where he claims that 60 Minutes treated Biden with silk gloves while asking himself “tough questions”.
When Donald Trump claims that he wants the states to be opened “cautiously”, this is questioned by Stahl and then he is told that it is the governors who rule the states. Trump later denied saying he wanted to “lock up” Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. This is because he did not want to end the partial state shutdown he ordered.
– When I said that? I never said that, Trump said.
What Stahl was referring to was an election rally that Trump held in Michigan, where he leveled harsh criticism at Whitmer and was then met with the cry of the audience shouting “lock her up, lock her up!” And responded with “lock her up!” lock them all up! “
The expression “lock her up” came a during an election rally in Toledo, Ohio in 2016 when Donald Trump, then a presidential candidate, was greeted by the same spokespersons, and later targeted his opponent in the presidential election, Democrat Hillary Clinton.
That time, Trump replied:
– You should lock her up, I say.
In Tuesday’s interview with 60 Minutes fires Trump, saying he “obviously” didn’t want to lock up the governor.
– I never said you should lock up the governor of Michigan.
And the longer the interview lasts, the clearer it becomes that Lesley Stahl doesn’t get the answers she wants and that Donald Trump doesn’t like the questions she asks. The president eventually accuses Stahl of asking questions he didn’t expect.
“I think we’ve had enough,” Trump said at the end.
Donald Trump later published also the 60-minute interview with Vice President Mike Pence. There, Pence claims that Donald Trump kept all the electoral promises he made. Stahl then replies that this is not true. Among other things, Trump has failed to deliver on a promise to build America’s infrastructure.
Donald Trump has also failed to make Mexico pay for the wall he promised to build between the two countries.
When Stahl asks Mike Pence to comment on the president’s statement calling America’s top infection control doctor, Anthony Fauci, a “disaster” and Fauci and other scientific advisers “idiots” (“People are tired of listening to Fauci and those idiots, all those where the idiots who did everything wrong, “Trump said) chose Pence to speak about the strategy of the American crown.
This makes Lesley Stahl tired of Pence and Trump:
– You have insulted 60 Minutes and me by not answering questions, but by giving campaign speeches. He seems to think that people in power don’t have to be held accountable, Stahl says.
Pence responds by criticizing the CBS reporter for not asking questions about foreign policy and about Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. When Stahl asks if he wants to talk foreign policy, White House staff think the interview is over.
On Thursday, CBS commented on the release of the show by the White House:
“The unprecedented decision by the White House to ignore the agreement with CBS News and publish its images will not prevent ’60 Minutes’ from providing full, fair and contextual reports that presidents have participated in for decades.”