US Elections: – – A Democratic Disaster



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Rhetoric professor Kjell Terje Ringdal describes last night’s presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden as “a democratic catastrophe.”

– It seems that all political, human and civil laws have been repealed, and one can say and do anything. All arguments dissolve and it is no longer believed that people listen and reason. It was a dog fight, Ringdal tells Dagbladet.

– There is no dignity to trace here, you mean?

– No, this was all that begins with “u”. He was unworthy, undisciplined, rude and unpleasant.

– New lower level

– We may have been prepared for the fact that it would be tough and difficult, but this is on a new lower level, continues the professor, who teaches rhetoric, social impact and public relations at Kristiania University College in Oslo.

IN CONFLICT: The accusations against Trump did not come up unexpectedly during the US presidential debate. Video: AP
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A first instant poll conducted by CBS after last night’s presidential debate shows that as many as 69 percent said they were upset by the debate, and only 17 percent said they felt informed.

Fox News Chairman Chris Wallace had serious trouble handling the debate, primarily because a persistent and aggressive Trump constantly interrupted and outdid him and Biden.

– Passed “insane tests”

– As I understand it, it was almost impossible to control the president, and he is blamed for the behavior and style of the debate, says Ringdal, who continues:

– Your strategy is evil. He tries to put Biden out of the fight and has a bad plan to make him feel insecure and angry.

– He achieves it?

– No, you can’t, as I understand it. Biden has said “shut up, man” and rolls his eyes, but it seems like he persevered and passed the first “insanity test”, both mentally and physically. Biden was downplayed by the president beforehand, which may have been to his advantage, because he performed better than expected, Ringdal believes.

TEACHER: Rhetoric teacher Kjell Terje Ringdal describes Donald Trump as “the bad boy of the class” and says he thinks Biden passed the “dementia test.” Photo: Morten Holm / Scanpix
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– No debate

– What did the body language say?

– Here we have a president who is the bad boy of the class. He rolls his eyes, interrupts, is undisciplined and rough in physical form. This was a debate with a new Olympic record in interruptions, says the professor of rhetoric.

– We also see that the American debate has gone from worrying about content, to worrying about style. The content is playing in a class of its own.

– Can you call it a debate, then?

– No, this was not a debate at all. These were waterfalls of ugly and horrible words, Ringdal says, adding:

– And it is a basic democratic crisis when you cannot have a conversation, because it is the conversations that carry us forward.

– Not particularly dirty

US election researcher and expert Hilmar Mjelde believes little has changed after tonight’s debate.

– Trump failed to change the course of the “race.” Neither of them will get votes in support of the voters as a result of the debate, but Biden should not have asked Trump to shut up. It’s about showing respect for the office, says Mjelde, who says he doesn’t agree that this was a particularly dirty debate.

– The debates in the Republican primary elections in 2016 were more difficult, he tells Dagbladet.

BIDEN: This came after a series of interruptions by President Donald Trump. Video: AP
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– No deer caught in the headlights

Mjelde believes that Trump was the most dominant during last night’s debate.

He has a much more powerful personality and appearance than Biden, and he ran the show that way. But Biden did well too. He was quite clear in his speech and punctuated.

– Sometimes Trump bit her, but everyone would have been, says Mjelde.

He believes that Biden had more to lose than Trump had to gain tonight.

– It did not collapse, as the Trump camp expected. The bite did not seem forgetful or confused. Biden didn’t need to act anymore, says Mjelde, adding:

– Trump’s camp expected Biden to look like a deer caught by headlights. It did not happen.

ELECTION INVESTIGATOR: Hilmar Mjelde.
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Disappointed with Trump

Many viewers were likely disappointed in Donald Trump’s behavior in the debate against Joe Biden, according to American expert Alf Tomas Tønnessen.

Parts of the debate were strongly marked by the participants speaking on the lips of others. Tønnessen claims Trump was the worst when it comes to disruptions and inaccuracies.

– I don’t think Trump has won many new voters, he tells NTB.

The chaotic nature of word exchange can have different effects, depending on how different viewers perceive it. But many were likely disappointed in Trump’s behavior, believes Tønnessen, who is an associate professor at the University of Agder.

On important issues, the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett as the new Supreme Court judge stands out.

Mud bath in the trench

Mud bath in the trench

The conservative majority on the United States Supreme Court may have an impact, among other things, on abortion legislation and Obamacare health care reform. In the debate, Biden warned that health care reform is now in jeopardy.

Tønnessen says NTB in han agrees with this and says that there is a real possibility that the reform will be revoked if a new right-wing judge is appointed on the political scene.

In another sequence of the debate, Trump was asked if he wanted to distance himself from supporters of white power and militia groups, something he did not do.

– Attempts to seek support from extremists, but without appearing racist himself. It’s a demanding balancing act, says Tønnessen.

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