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CLEVELAND, OHIO (VG) The presidential debate that night was very heated.
After a brief round of courtesy, the first presidential debate in 2020 went straight to the point of discussing Trump’s appointment of Supreme Court justices, after Ruth Bader Ginsburg recently passed away.
– We won the elections. Elections have consequences. We control the Senate and we have the White House. We have a very good candidate. I think it will be amazing. She will be as good as anyone else who has sat in that court. We won the election, so we have the right to choose it, Donald Trump began.
Biden replied:
– The American people have the right to participate in the decision of who will sit on the Supreme Court. That means voting for the senators and the president. They don’t understand it right now. What is at stake here is health care reform (for Obama, editor’s note). 20 million people could lose the right to health care they can afford. I have nothing against the candidate. She is probably a good woman. It is simply not decent to do this before the election.
“I was elected for four years, not three,” Trump responded.
On Wednesday morning, there will be a broadcast with highlights and reactions, both from voters in Ohio and from experts in Oslo, on VGTV. Also, VG commentators are rolling the dice on the “Giæver og gjengen” podcast.
We speak in each other’s mouth
Then the two knights went straight to each other’s throats. And it wasn’t long before Trump went down the throat of tonight’s moderator Chris Wallace, who finally had to ask the president to shut up so he could ask his question.
The topic quickly moved to healthcare, after Biden brought it up in his answer, but both candidates struggled to express their views, while speaking into each other’s mouths. Something that was going to happen several times during the 90 minutes of the debate.
“We want to get rid of Obamacare,” he said.
Biden responds that Trump does not have a health care plan:
– You have talked about this for a long time, but have not come up with any plans. That is because you do not have a health plan. She has no plan at all.
He asked Trump to shut up
Shortly after, the two spoke again into each other’s mouths and broke off. In the end, Biden was clearly frustrated.
– You can shut up, man! he told the president.
The host then said that they would now change the topic and move on to a new segment.
– This was a really productive segment, Biden said with a smile.
– It was sarcastic. You know it
The next topic was the coronavirus. Joe Biden went out of his way to accuse the president of doing nothing like a good enough job.
Trump, for his part, responded that he had done a much better job than Biden could have done.
– I know how to do a good job, said Biden.
“You didn’t do it with the swine flu,” Trump said, referring to the disease that plagued America for a time while Biden was Barack Obama’s vice president.
– 14,000 died at that time. Not 200,000. We didn’t shut down the economy, Biden replied.
Biden later said that Trump had proven his incompetence, among other things, when he claimed that an attempt could be made to inject bleach into the body against the virus.
– It was sarcastic. You know, replied Trump, who later in the discussion also accused Biden of not being smart.
– No serious player says that
Eventually the discussion came to a head. A very hot topic in the United States, which has become very politicized. Trump showed a bandage he had in his inside pocket and said he has no problem with the masks, but at the same time scoffed at the fact that Biden wears them all the time.
– Experts say 100,000 lives can be saved if everyone wears masks, Biden replied.
“They also say the opposite,” Trump said.
No serious gamer says that, Biden thought.
– Dr. Fauci said so. He said the masks weren’t good, and then changed his mind, Trump said, before Biden finally called the president completely irresponsible in the way he handled the bandage issue.
Trump, for his part, was then more concerned about saying he has thousands of supporters at his election rallies, saying that Biden, who has avoided large election rallies because he says he will not contribute to the spread of the infection, could never meet like this. Many people.
– I pay millions in taxes every year.
The next topic was the economy. Donald Trump believed that with a Biden as president, the country will not be able to return financially after the coronavirus.
“We are on the right track now,” Trump said.
Biden, for his part, says the president hasn’t done enough for small business owners to survive this crisis, noting that many are now bankrupt.
The presenter then asked Trump if it was true that Trump only paid $ 750 in federal income taxes in 2016 and the same in 2017, as the New York Times recently wrote.
“I pay millions in taxes every year,” Trump said without saying anything specific about federal income taxes.
– Show us your tax return, Biden said.
Trump called a clown
Ultimately, Trump brought the issue over to Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, and asked why he received $ 3.5 million from the mayor of Moscow.
“That’s not true,” Biden said.
He then tried to answer the question further, but Trump constantly interrupted him and repeatedly repeated the same question, while Biden went on to say that it is not true.
Eventually the host had to yell at Trump and ask him to stop, so that Biden could answer for himself, and promised that the next word would be Bidens.
– It’s hard to say a single word with this clown, said Biden.
Then a long fight continued in which no one really spoke. In the end, the host almost had to yell to pass and drown them, especially Trump who was the most vocal. Finally, the presenter took the floor and asked Trump to stop interrupting.
“He should too,” Trump responded, referring to Biden.
– To be honest, you’ve done more, said host Wallace, who works for the television channel Fox News, known for being friendly with Trump.
– Systematic difference
After this, Wallace changed the subject of the racial debate and the demonstrations that have followed the police violence against black Americans.
– There is a systematic difference in how blacks and whites are treated in our legal system, Biden said, before adding that the vast majority of police officers are good people, but that there are some who are not, and that something must be done. with.
Trump, for his part, believed that Biden is not in favor of law and order, and that cities run by Democrats are much more violent than others.
– Yes, I am in favor of law and order, where people are treated fairly, Biden said.
The host noted that there has also been an increase in crime in Republican-led cities.
– Yes, you can always find some examples, said the president.
This part of the debate also ended with the candidates speaking into each other’s mouths, making it difficult for viewers to see what the two mean and what they actually mean.
Obama’s attack
The last theme of the evening was the record of the two candidates. Donald Trump was aware that he had done a good job in his almost four years as president.
-I have done a better job than probably any president before me, he said and boasted to all the judges he had appointed.
– When Obama left the White House, there were 128 vacant judges in the country. You can’t be a good president, or vice president, if you leave so many jobs vacant, Trump said.
Biden, for his part, spent time saying, among other things, that Trump is going after Russian Vladimir Putin.
Then the president interrupted again, and the program leader, Wallace, had to remind him that his campaign had accepted the rules that both candidates should be able to speak freely for two minutes on each topic before the discussion began.
– He is wrong
Wallace then brought climate change to the forefront and asked what Trump believes in the science on the subject, after he recently stated during a visit to the California wildfires that he thought many scientists were wrong.
– I think we must do everything we can to have perfectly clean water and air, Trump said, among other things, before concluding that better deforestation is needed to prevent wildfires.
Wallace wondered why Trump has backtracked on many of Obama’s climate laws.
“Because it took the energy giants to heaven,” replied the president.
Biden, for his part, had to answer why he wants to introduce climate measures that the president believes will lead to the loss of a large number of jobs.
– You are wrong, said Biden, and explained why he believes such measures will actually create jobs.
– The first thing I want to do is make sure that we become part of the Paris Agreement again, he continued.
The president then warns against what he thinks will be too costly measures.
– Fraud you’ve never seen
The last topic of the evening was the integrity of the election and whether the candidates believe that the election will be fair and that a legitimate winner will be chosen.
Biden spent much of his time encouraging people to vote.
– It does not matter if he says he does not know if he will accept a result, because if the election is decided with enough votes, he must go anyway, said the former vice president.
Trump, as he has done several times in recent times, has attacked mailed votes.
– This will be a scam I have never seen before.
The program leader noted that millions of votes by mail have also been received in previous elections. He then asked Trump if he thought this would end up in the Supreme Court. He did not respond directly, but said the following:
– This will never end well.
“He’s afraid of counting the votes,” Biden said.
Wallace noted that it can take days and weeks for a result to be ready, and he wondered if candidates would ask their supporters to remain calm until the result is ready.
“I urge my supporters to go to the polls and pay close attention,” said Trump, who later noted that he would not agree to see tens of thousands of votes being cheated.
Biden responded in the affirmative that he would encourage his followers to remain calm.
And that was, more or less, the last word in the debate.
– It’s been 90 interesting minutes, Chris Wallace smiled at the end.