The expert unmasked the Seimas member who spreads disinformation: it is an openly harmful anti-state activity

“Seimas member Aidas Gedvilas misinforms Lithuanian citizens about COVID-19 vaccination problems. This is openly harmful anti-state activity and the Seimas should evaluate it accordingly, ”wrote V. Zemlys-Balevičius on Facebook.

“Then AG is Aidas Gedvilas and VZB is me,” explained the researcher.

Here’s the full expert log:

„AG: And the data researchers have a number of how many vaccinated people did not get sick?

VZB: Approximately 1.5 million people in Lithuania have received at least one dose since the start of vaccination. Approximately 150,000 new cases of COVID19 were recorded during that period. That is, if we assume that all sick people have been vaccinated, we will get that around 1.3 million people in Lithuania did not contract COVID19. Because our assumption is obviously too strict, the number of unvaccinated people is certainly higher.

AG: As far as I know, the vaccines are still in clinical trials, they have only been granted a conditional registration and the aggregated data, in principle, is not and cannot be.

VZB: So, on the basis of what data did the Seimas member calculate the probabilities? Data on vaccination and its effects are collected continuously. There are published publications in which the efficacy of vaccines has been calculated. The second publication is based on data misinterpreted by a member of the Seimas.

AG: E.g. Comirnaty vaccine product characteristics summary states: December. “

VZB: All studies already published will inevitably form part of this final report. It should be noted that when the vaccine is finally fully approved, nothing will actually change. There is already enough data that vaccines are safe and effective and data is only collected to realistically correct for decimal places. Is the efficiency 95.1 percent? or 95.2 percent.

AG: In the current situation, there are many conflicting sources of information and people are confused. Obviously, it is very difficult to obtain objective information about the pandemic and the effectiveness of vaccines, and my goal is to provide people with information that they could not get from other sources and thus broaden their understanding of the current situation so that they can make their own decisions. .

VZB: Obtaining objective information on the effectiveness of vaccines is not that difficult. This is also shown in the example of a member of the Seimas, who cites publicly available information provided by Public Health England.

AG: If I make a mistake or am wrong, I will not be ashamed to admit it. So far, people are only given one option: a vaccine or to be shut down. I think we should look for alternatives, because using COVID vaccines for the rest of humanity would be unwise. Obviously, we must look for other ways to manage the pandemic and ways to continue living with the virus, as our Swedish compatriots, the Danes, are doing.

VZB: In Denmark 64% are fully vaccinated, in Sweden 48%, in Lithuania 50%. The first dose is 74% in Denmark, 65% in Sweden and 57% in Lithuania. Sweden has accelerated vaccinations in the summer so it is still behind in terms of complete vaccination numbers, but well ahead of us in terms of the first dose. The LRS Health Committee had invited Sweden’s chief epidemiologist, A. Tegnel, to share the Swedish experience. Their key points are that: “… such a chosen pandemic management strategy would not necessarily work in other countries, as the mindset of Swedish citizens differs significantly due to the fact that Swedes are used to listening to and respecting decisions from the authorities. “And” … “We have taken measures to control the spread of the disease, but they were not enough. The situation was only controlled when the vaccination process began. “

So Swedes and Danes live with the virus through vaccination, why should we do it any other way? Tegel is also not opposed to the Passport of Opportunity: “I think all the motivation that people can use to make a vaccination decision is good. I think a ‘green passport’ is a good thing. However, there are certain ethical issues that need to be discussed carefully before such steps are taken. “

AG: I have never denied the existence of the virus, I am not against vaccines, but against segregation, discrimination, legislation that violates human rights and, therefore, against mandatory vaccination. Vaccination should only be carried out with the free consent of the person.

VZB: There is no compulsory vaccination in Lithuania. Vaccination without human consent is not possible. By rejecting emotions and taking a serious look at the current situation, the current restrictions on the unvaccinated are no different from the other restrictions designed to protect the public interest.

AG: Statistics are fascinating because they are just numbers and their interpretation can be the same. Like half a glass. For some it is half full, for others it is half empty.

VZB: To start interpreting numbers, you must first count them correctly. Statistics are part of mathematics and there is no interpretation for a correct calculation. Either the calculations are correct or not. The main conclusion that is always made when interpreting statistical data is: The data (does not) contradict the hypothesis. It is often the case that the data do not contradict contradictory hypotheses. This is why a popular myth has emerged that statistics are the third type of lie. But that is still a myth. In this particular case of the data published by PHE, the vaccination data does not contradict the hypothesis that the vaccine is effective. How the data from other countries do not contradict this hypothesis. The main error of a member of the Seimas is in the mathematical calculations. Interpretations of miscalculations are often wrong.

AG: There are no limits to discussions and discussions. In my post, I defined what seemed relevant to me at the time. Do data analysts see other alternatives? Brilliant. This is your job: see, dig deep, analyze, ask questions. I have more questions for them: how many people have died 4 weeks after the vaccine? Do not answer me. It is also great. We help each other to deepen our knowledge. I would even call that process progressive. Although, frankly, I do not even feel comfortable seeing how the Department of Statistics discredits his name, well, but hopefully everything is only for the good and that they also draw conclusions from their mistakes and improve the quality of their activities.

VZB: To make decisions, it is always necessary to draw the line when discussions and discussions end. Nobody disputes whether there is gravity or not. It is always possible to resume a discussion when new data emerges, but first you need to make sure that the new data actually shows something new. Keep in mind that the debate takes time and time has a price. It is unethical to discuss the subtleties of calculating the effectiveness of vaccines when hospitals are filling up and there are more than enough data and studies to prove the effectiveness of vaccination. Nor is it ethical to hinder the work of institutions on useless issues.

What’s the point of asking how many people have died 4 weeks after the vaccine? It is clear from the reported deaths and the vaccination dynamics that there is no correlation between them. Let me remind you that around 1.5 million people have received at least one dose. Nearly 300,000 cases of COVID-19 have been reported. Approximately 4.5 thousand of the patients died and the death certificate indicated that the cause of death was COVID-19. IWT records all side effects and side effects of vaccines and to our knowledge there are no known deaths due to vaccines. It is these questions that discredit those who ask them more than the institutions that have to waste time responding to requests from incompetent people. “

At the end of the record, V. Zemlys-Balevičius provides ten references to various publications, confirming his statements, describing the unmasking of information disseminators, statistical information on morbidity, vaccination and death from COVID-19, explanations on the vaccination record and others. information.