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The members of the Health Affairs Committee of the Seimas, Orinta Leiputė and Jurgita Sejonienė, the president of the Employers’ Confederation Danas Arlauskas and the doctor of biomedical sciences Marius Strioga spoke about indicators of morbidity, pandemic management and new restrictions on the radio of knowledge .
Leipute: ineffective passport of opportunity
O. Leiputė, a member of the Seimas Health Affairs Committee, says that with the number of new infections increasing, wearing masks is not a bad tool. Masks can be used to manage a pandemic more effectively, she says.
“I would not see a tragedy, but the problem is that alternating different demands is very confusing and annoying for people. This moment, I think, is the weak side of the ministry, ”says O. Leiputė on the“ Question of the day ”program on Žinių radio.
According to the parliamentarian, a measure will not solve the problems, but considers that the requirement of masks inside is a reasonable decision. However, O. Leiputė believes that decisions are made inconsistently.
“If you come to the store, it is not clear whether to put or not to put. Show me a piece of paper, otherwise I won’t name the passport, since I don’t even check the identity card. You go in, you are without a mask ”, says O. Leiputė.
The Seimas member also points out that the passport of opportunity has recently acted as a permit to enter the store and is therefore ineffective as a pandemic management tool.
“The passport of opportunity would be effective if the data were collected by scanning with traceability, if someone was infected or informing a person that there was an infection, an outbreak, a look, a self-assessment of their health. Then it would be effective. Now, I don’t think it’s effective, partly discriminatory, “says O. Leiputė.
O. Leiputė would not support a full shutdown. In his opinion, we have been closed for too long and the main measures to control the spread of the virus at this time should be hygiene, the use of masks and more effective communication by inviting those who have not yet been vaccinated to get vaccinated.
According to conservative parliamentarian J. Sejonienė, the government cannot control the pandemic by applying one or other measures. According to her, in addition to the government’s efforts, it is also very important how the population adheres to the measures.
“The government’s goal is to kill as few people as possible, keep the number of sick in hospitals as low as possible, provide medical care to those who do not have COVID-19. But it requires mutual cooperation and trust. Both the people of the Government and the people of the people, ”says J. Sejonienė.
According to the parliamentarian, we could expect stricter restrictions when the number of patients in hospitals increases significantly. It is true that in hospitals and now there are several patients. According to data from the Statistics Department this Thursday, 1,201 beds were occupied for the treatment of COVID-19.
Strioga: the virus is more dangerous for people with comorbidities.
Lithuania is the leader in Europe in terms of morbidity indicators. Marius Strioga, a doctor of biomedical sciences, says one reason for this may be insufficient vaccination. Particular emphasis should be placed on vaccinating the elderly.
“Especially more than 70, 80 m. age. We need to know that the general state of public health, and especially of older people who have comorbidities, is significantly worse than that of others.
Scandinavian countries are presented. Their life expectancy, their full life activities, their risk of dying from cardiovascular diseases, such as myocardial infarction, sometimes differ, not by a percentage, ”says M. Strioga.
The specialist points out that, in general, prevention has always been followed in history, no matter what disease we are talking about. But now you see the opposite.
“Now all this adds up, there is no need for vaccines and our people are in a much worse condition than others. We have the situation as it is. If the same age groups are infected with this virus, they are more likely to die because their body is more affected by other pathologies ”, says M. Strioga.
Mr. Strioga emphasized that the increase in the number of COVID-19 beds in hospitals would not affect the resolution of the situation. A sufficient number of specialists are still needed to prepare, so vaccination is the most important tool.
“If you have those beds, where unskilled specialists will work, it can be even worse. It is not a question of beds and why we just because someone does not want to be vaccinated, why do we simply have to inflate the number of beds for a certain group of people Okay, will the pandemic end, where will that bed be then? “Thinks Strioga.
Roads seem to lead to mandatory vaccination
With the release of restrictions, the return of other viral diseases, such as colds, flu or others, is observed. According to M. Strioga, these viruses are not as infectious as the coronavirus.
It is also observed that although we are protecting ourselves against the coronavirus, we are also protected against other viruses, so when the cold season arrives, the use of masks is still recommended, although they are not mandatory in some places.
“If we all take off and tear off our masks, it goes without saying that the gateway to our bodies will be open to viruses. That is why it is said that it is not necessary to do so, we will have to do it gradually,” says M. Strioga.
According to the specialist, wearing masks in public places, not only indoors but also outdoors, is still useful. Where there are not many people around, masks can be used. As Mr. Strioga says, it will be necessary to gradually stop wearing masks.
“In this case, we will not allow other hungry viruses to attack us when our airways open and there are no obstructions,” says Strioga.
Strioga also highlights the importance of vaccination.
“I am afraid that not only in Lithuania, but also in other countries, sad as it may be, it seems that the roads lead to compulsory or even compulsory vaccination,” says M. Strioga.
How to encourage people to get vaccinated?
We hear different opinions about vaccines in the public space. Some don’t get vaccinated, others don’t persuade loved ones not to get vaccinated.
According to O. Leiputė, to force the population to be vaccinated through violence. for example, without paying them a pension or other benefits.
The MP believes that vaccination should be encouraged when talking to an unvaccinated person. Family physicians, social workers, the elderly, and other potentially authorized individuals might be a good fit for this.
“I think it was effective when an incentive system for GPs was introduced and the call for patients to get vaccinated intensified. However, the annoying policy of saying that if you were not vaccinated you would not receive sick pay, you could not use public transport and health services were excessive things that made some people do the opposite, ”said O .Leiputė.
One of the suggestions on how to encourage people to get vaccinated more is to pay them money for vaccines. According to the parliamentarian, such measures are not necessary at the state level, but in any case, various initiatives are welcome.
“There were both attempts, in Palanga a portion of zeppelins belonged, sports clubs distributed free tickets to vaccinated visitors. I believe that all incentive programs and measures are sufficient at this time. If a municipality sees that it can influence and encourage a specific group of the population in this way, I support it, ”says J. Sejonienė.
The parliamentarian is disappointed that relatives of the elderly population discourage them from getting vaccinated.
“I emphasize that comorbidities are an indication for vaccination. We also tried to use the clergy, many of them responded, I thank the cardinals who said their word, the arrival of nurses at home is also a convenience for those people who cannot come to the vaccination center. I ask all family, friends, acquaintances to cooperate. Advise, do not discourage older people from vaccination, ”says J. Sejonienė.
Work from home: offers to protect people from additional costs
D. Arlauskas, president of the Employers’ Confederation, says that telecommuting is not just an invention of a pandemic. Home workers have been working for many years, especially in foreign companies.
“COVID-19 has played a pretty good role by being at the forefront of new business governance. This is good, because it helps to save resources and the efficiency has only increased since then ”, says D. Arlauskas.
However, it is observed that the quality of work done at home may differ from that done in the workplace.
“Employees are not disciplined enough to be able to do it when a boss doesn’t see all the work they need, like eight hours. This is the challenge of our period of cultural rebirth. Working remotely is not that easy. They are basically cultural things, you have to be very disciplined, very responsible, be able to plan your time and understand that you don’t need a boss, that you are your own boss and that you set the agenda on your own ”, says D. Arlauskas.
According to D. Arlauskas, employers are interested in employees working, so they encourage their employees to get vaccinated and take care of themselves. However, I would not support the idea that only vaccinated people can work.
“We are in favor, it is not a good example, it is an imperative. From the beginning, we state our position that there must be an alternative. There are people who do not want to for various reasons, for ideological reasons, for health reasons and others. If you are healthy, you are being tested, is it really necessary to get vaccinated? ”, Says D. Arlauskas.
MP O. Leiputė assesses the proposal to telecommute, if possible, positively, but it is noted that when working from home, the personal resources of the employee are often used. For example, electricity, internet connection, technology.
“Decisions must be made to protect a person from such unnecessary expenses,” says O. Leiputė.
J. Sejonienė, a member of the Health Affairs Committee, says that in the case of teleworking, an agreement must be reached between the employee and the employer. According to the parliamentarian, and during the first wave of the coronavirus, it became clear that working from home is possible.
“I believe that the agreement between the employer and the employee, if the employer provides and creates conditions for work, if the employee adapts and, if he has the means at home and agrees to work with them, contribute to the activities of the company” . says J. Sejonienė.
According to the MP, unvaccinated Seimas members should also work remotely.
“The members of the Seimas, although they have legal immunity in many cases, in the first place, they should be an example for all residents, they should not come to work if they do not meet the universal security requirements,” says J. Sejonienė .
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