Karbauskis – on those who leave the faction: if they have a little self-esteem, they have to help the mandate

Portal Comments Delphi Karbauskis also commented on rumors that the opposition and “peasants” were inciting protests, one of which eventually escalated into riots on Tuesday. The politician rejects such accusations.

On Wednesday, Lukas Savickas, a member of the LVŽS faction, announced his resignation from the faction.

On the eve of the riots, LVŽS has called “to end discrimination against people not vaccinated by COVID-19” even today, sending congratulations to the “Nation that has come to defend its state and its freedoms” and affirms that “These are not they are only statements that I do not understand, but also statements that cause a great sense of shame, ”wrote L. Savickas on Facebook.

He said he did not want to be identified with the theories spread by his colleagues Dainius Kepenis and Valius Ąžuolas “about mystical masked animals, the strangest effects of vaccines and the global conspiracy against healthy people.” Read more about L. Savickas’ departure from the group here.

Another member of the LVŽS faction, Rūta Miliūtė, did not hide from the Elta news agency that he was thinking of leaving the faction. L. Savickas and R. Miliūtė supported the Association Law in the spring, they are not members of the “peasants” party.

“If they are really preparing or thinking of continuing to support the Association Act, then they are well aware that they will be removed from the group immediately after such support.” Delphi R. Karbauskis commented.

According to him, these group members simply took the opportunity and used the pretext to leave. However, according to R. Karbauskis, L. Savickas’ speeches offended colleagues.

“They just chose the opportunity. It was quite amusing for me to read Savick’s words yesterday when he tried to pour out on his colleagues. You know, yesterday he insulted his colleagues very badly. Very offended. If he was respected in this faction, then yesterday he simply burned that respect, “emphasized R. Karbauskis.

The president of LVŽS was outraged by the accusations against V. Ąžuolis and D. Kepenis.

“I can imagine how both Liver and Oak felt in this situation when they tried to cover them up. And the reason is elementary: the decision of our party council, which is binding. “If they had voted and probably had not changed their decision, nothing wonderful would have happened,” said the politician.

According to R. Karbauskis, R. Miliūtė, L. Savickas and Tomas Tomilinas, who was expelled from the party, “crossed the red line.” As R. Miliūtė and L. Savickas were elected according to the electoral list of LVŽS, they, as the party leader pointed out, should resign the mandates of the Seimas members.

“If they have a little self-esteem, they have to help the mandate. Both are multiple members, the voters of LVŽS voted in favor and I said it after all the votes on the association: you have just betrayed your voter ”, emphasized R. Karbauskis.

Skvernel’s plans are seen in two ways – it would be hard to imagine working with his own faction

Opposition leader Saulius Skvernelis, when it became clear that L. Savickas was withdrawing from the faction, said that more such colleagues could emerge.

“If someone else thinks they need other solutions, it is their business. Each member of the Seimas has a free mandate, the elections in Lithuania are seen, the responsibility of the electorate from far away,” said the president of the “peasants”.

S. Skvernelis has admitted on the LRT.lt portal that he does not reject the idea of ​​creating a separate faction. R. Karbauskis stated that this may be due to several reasons.

“I don’t know, Saul decides his own destiny. The essential difference is the attitudes towards the president: our faction supports the president, Saúl practically does not. If you have noticed their comments on what the President is proposing, they are always negative and our groups are positive.

Here is the biggest division there is. I understand that Saúl sees this as something almost personal, perhaps it is related to the presidential election, perhaps between them, when he was prime minister, something was something that I do not know ”, considered the leader of LVŽS.

He stressed that the views of the “peasants” and S. Skvernel were fundamental.

“A person simply thinks about his political future, he says, if he thinks he will be more useful in some other way, he will do it in another way. There is nothing strange here, “said R. Karbauskis.

When asked if he would imagine a job if S. Skvernel had another faction, the politician simply replied.

“I don’t really think about it now, because I think my colleagues in the group, if they had done it, would consider that step as a very negative step, because there is no reason to do it,” he said.

“There comes a time when there are only three years left before the next Seimas election and people are just thinking. We told the two young Seimas members and Tomás that the Freedom Party faction was probably more suitable for you. than the “peasants”, because we told our voters something completely different from you. And with Saul, we have no doubt. Yes, some issues stand out, but not the essential ones, “said R. Karbauskis.

He assured that if the Seimas elections were held now, S. Skvernelis could still participate in the elections on the LVŽS list even after such statements.

“Certainly. There is no reason why we should not work together. Sometimes he speaks very critically about our decisions, we also speak. (…) However, this is certainly not the reason why we do not have such differences in value that they would be critical. When we talk about working together, we know each other, we know each other, we understand each other’s characters “, R. Karbauskis emphasized.

He also emphasized that such “detachments” of the group did not damage the general image of the LVŽS. On the contrary, according to R. Karbauskis, it helps to refine the values.

He commented on the participation of colleagues in the rally

Speaking about the rally held at the Seimas on Tuesday, R. Karbauskis noted that the representatives of LVŽS D. Kepenis and V. Ąžuolas participated only in the first part of the protest.

“Both Kepenis and Ąžuolas participated only in the rally, they did not participate in any riot, they did not invite them, that would be stupid. (…) They read a statement from me as president and our group.” All those things are not inciting a protest, but indicating the reasons why the protest is and what must be changed so that it does not exist, “the politician explained.

He argued that the accusations against the opposition of inciting to participate in the protest showed the desperation of the authorities.

“It just came to our attention then. I’ll just remind you that from 2018 to 2020, there were no electoral protests at all. None. In this situation, we said that and at the end of the legislature we said that we had done it so that people no longer protested. . (…) People no longer had reasons to go to protest, ”said R. Karbauskis.

The president of LVŽS categorically rejected such accusations.

“We have never been organizers or anything like the Family March, not now. We simply had the position of telling the government what to do to avoid it, ”emphasized the peasant leader.

When asked how many members of the Seimas, such as Petras Gražulis and his current assistant, former MP Naglis Puteikis, were involved in the action and during the riots, R. Karbauskis said that everyone has to answer for it.

“I believe that everyone who organized and contributed to the riots must respond in accordance with the law. We never talk about the need to forgive someone who broke the law. If someone broke the law, we would demand the same responsibility,” said the politician.

He explained that the riots had occurred because the authorities did not come out to speak to the protesters during the peaceful demonstration in the first half of the day.

“When in 2018 a rally organized by Tapinas was held, which in the sense of the rally was the same as this one. How is this rally different from the current one? – I went to the meeting organized by Tapinas, the then Speaker of the Seimas came out. We went out to talk to people and we quenched that anger. The government has not done what we have done now and has not left, ”said R. Karbauskis.

According to him, it is easy to provoke people when he sees the indifference of the government.

“The riots were the result of a demonstration. If you can blame one, you can automatically blame the other. They are interrelated things. If there were no rallies, there would be no riots, and they broke out after the rally did not try to reassure people, explain to them , promise something ”, said the president of LVŽS.

Claim there will only be too many rallies – satisfy this power

According to R. Karbauskis, there will be more rallies in the future.

“Now the anger in society will gradually increase when you don’t leave a person on the bus, when you don’t let them into the store. Inevitably, this will be the case and they are doing it deliberately. It seems to me that this event, the rally and the riots, it satisfies this power. They just say they don’t want to, but it seems to me that they are happy with it, because it is falling on us, on the opposition, “he said.

To this will contribute, according to the politician, the decision of the capital city to revoke all previous permits for this type of meeting.

“I think this is a provocation for an even bigger protest. The government’s decision taken yesterday is a provocation, the Vilnius decision is a provocation. Why do this? We are a democratic state, “R. Karbauskis got angry.

“The government’s own behavior provokes a wave of protests. If the government does not change its behavior, the wave of protests will increase and grow larger in the fall. There are very few protests in summer. It is already necessary to drive here in the state administration for such protests to take place in the summer.

In the fall and winter, they will only grow and there will definitely be no opposition in your organization. If the opposition did nothing, (…) the government would do everything for us. We have a power in which the opposition no longer needs to do anything, it will end up alone ”, added R. Karbauskis.