Ukrainian director S. Loznica makes a film about “Mr. Landsberg”: it is important for world history | Culture



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“I was able to collect exceptional footage, which I found not only in film and television archives, but also in the history of private people using a VHS camera,” he said, adding that he currently has around 1,000 hours of footage.

– What interests Vytautas Landsbergis?

– In the first place, because he is a very interesting person: deep, wise, important and significant. However, not only for Lithuania, the Soviet Union, all European politics, but also for world history. Like the Sąjūdis, who restored their independence to the Baltic States, during which the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact was revised. These events later led to the collapse of the entire Soviet Union. When the “pribalta” came out, as was said in the Congress of People’s Deputies, Gorbachev lost absolute power. And then the rest came out.

Therefore, what happened in Lithuania at that time can be called a miracle. The three Baltic states took control and slipped, and Lithuania was at the forefront of all that “slip”.

Today, January 13, marks the thirtieth anniversary of the atrocities in Lithuania. It was then that people freely defended their independence with their free will, stubbornness, and courage. This period, therefore, requires a full perpetuation that is necessary for all other countries that have not finally regained their independence. Although formally they are free. I mean all the post-Soviet states. For example, Ukraine, Moldova, Sacartwell, Armenia, Azerbaijan are involved in the war. In some countries, Russia or Belarus, tyrants have established themselves and keep coming and going. It is also worth looking at what is happening only in Asia …

Therefore, what happened in Lithuania at that time can be called a miracle. The three Baltic states took control and slipped, and Lithuania was at the forefront of all that “slip”. And how this happened is an important issue not only for politicians who want to give freedom to their countries, but also to the world.

Photo from personal archive / Sergey Loznica with Vytautas Landsbergis

Photo from personal archive / Sergey Loznica with Vytautas Landsbergis

– Have you been planning to make a movie like this for a long time?

– I have been interested in this historical period for a long time. First, I created a band called Maidan. This is the story of the first real revolution that took place on the territory of the post-Soviet country. Of a revolution that was not brought down from above, but started by the vast majority of the people. It is a revolution from below.

Then I directed the film “The Event” about the 1991 coup, which was like an antipode to the revolution, because by creating the image that it was a citizens’ initiative, it was actually caused by the Soviet government. On the other hand, they were unable to control this event. As a continuation of all this, the elites and political actions of the Baltic states became the key to the collapse of the USSR. It seems that after opening the door a little we managed to escape …

There were a lot of well-known, intelligent and insightful publicists who got involved in this not because their profession was such.

That is why it is logical that starting from the “Event” he will return to Lithuania and try to look at it from the perspective of trying to regain independence. This is a significant test because it is a success, so it is necessary to explain why. This is particularly important for states that have not yet emerged from oppression.

It is necessary to look more closely at the measures taken by the politicians of that time and not only by V. Landsbergis. There were a lot of well-known, intelligent and insightful publicists who did this not because their profession was such (there was no one who had a political education). They were economists, philosophers, writers, musicians, poets, journalists and, of course, professional revolutionaries like Antanas Terleckas. Do you know him?

– I have heard.

– This is a very important and forgotten name. I often ask this question, but I also hear the answer “I heard.” Together with like-minded people, he founded the Lithuanian Freedom League. Yes, they were radicals, but all they said is what Lithuania wanted. They were constantly silenced by someone, saying, “Do you want tanks here?” Terleck had never been involved in official politics at the time, although that was exactly what he was doing. He never pursued any kind of state career, high office, on the contrary, he did not escape from it, he was a dissident imprisoned in Soviet camps. And there were so many amazing people like Peter Cizik and others.

Do you want tanks here?

These people only wanted the independence of the nation and the country. They did not know how to do politics in offices, official meetings, etc.

Photo from personal archive / Sergey Loznica with Vytautas Landsbergis

Photo from personal archive / Sergey Loznica with Vytautas Landsbergis

– Consequently, in your opinion, educated and knowledgeable people were the reason why Lithuania succeeded.

– No, that’s not the reason. It is the inability of the Lithuanian people to exist after everything they have experienced. They could no longer keep it all to themselves, remain silent. If the people themselves had not had a burning desire to be free, nothing would have happened. But one person and one desire is not enough, because those who are capable of realizing dreams in the political world are necessary. Without intelligence, the ability to play chess, there is nothing you can do, especially when a huge and complex parasite is playing in front of you that is still trying to pretend to be a friend. This continues to this day.

– Play as Alexei Navaln?

– Definitely not! I would not compare them in any way because they are players from completely different fields. I don’t think Navaln actually read what those people read. I mean world literature.

At the moment, I do not see the level of politics in Russia that was in Lithuania during the Sąjūdis.

Here another question arises. Taste. Some of the things that A. Navalnas can afford come out of the box. When you speak up and ask others to repeat “We are in power” and you understand that “We are not in power”, but that’s all rhetoric. It’s in bad taste, it doesn’t make sense, just form.

At the moment, I do not see the level of politics in Russia that was in Lithuania during the Sąjūdis. There is no opposition that can be taken seriously.

Navaln’s last action, when he called the person who tried to poison him, was presented to the whole world as a spectacle. And it’s a shame that this is how things turned out. After all, this program cannot be taken seriously; yes, they all have a language, but with those documents they will not be able to participate in any court. Although he’s brilliant, I’m still not sure what this person wants. Lithuanian politicians clearly communicated what they wanted and clearly knew how to achieve it, not how themselves. to enlarge to the whole world and stay bright balagane. It is necessary to understand that what the Lithuanians did was worth it.

I sincerely hope that in Lithuania the fourteen people who died on 13 January will be duly mentioned.

Sometimes independence seems to have fallen from the sky. Still, I want to make such a movie because it is really needed as a reminder of how much blood has been shed for freedom. I sincerely hope that in Lithuania the fourteen people who died on 13 January will be duly mentioned.

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AFP / “Scanpix” nuotr./Sergejus Loznica

– Do you have an objective in your film to influence the political field and the opinions of the people?

– Only to the extent that Herodotus can be affected. Do you know such a historian? So the historian’s job is to describe the facts, to tell us what we can be sure of. And why not.

My film will consist of an interview. This is the first time in my life. Episodes of events, opinions that no one will comment on and somewhat contradicts what is being said in the conversation. I will try to analyze the important events in Lithuania between 1988 and 1993 from a somewhat different perspective. However, I am afraid that one movie may not be enough for me, because this time it was very intense for Lithuania … Suppose that immediately after regaining independence, a blockade begins, which is especially interesting to watch and is very important pay attention to how people behaved at the time.

I also have material about an incredible meeting at the Attorney General’s Office, where a representative from Moscow appoints a Prosecutor General for Lithuania precisely when this person has already been elected in the Seimas. And here everyone is sitting across from each other. Imagine the atmosphere, the suggestion, the force of this situation: some explain what to do, while others say: “No, we will not obey you. You are not in power for us. “

You can feel my passion for this job yourself!

Thus, this film is not only about Landsberg, the struggle for independence, but about the choice of each one to live according to the voice of their conscience, the choice to feel their own worth. And it’s all filmed, but nobody knows!

You can feel my passion for this job yourself! Here, because I am like that, I cannot live with injustice. It should be changed as soon as possible. These events need to be recorded, especially when we have a Virgil like Landsberg who can count and appreciate everything. That does not mean that you agree with everything. No.

– You have been in contact with the teacher for a long time. What was the most important thing he said to you?

– The very fact of the conversation! For me, it was a gift of life, because I wonder how I did not do it before. We met V. Landsbergis at one of my film premieres at Scanorama in Vilnius, because he also came to see the state funeral. After one of the shows, we talked. I immediately felt a soul close to me. We see many things in a very similar way, I think we have managed to formulate exactly what you want to say, and I hope there is still a chance to meet him.



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