Vytautas Landsbergis on his low grades and those of his grandson: unpleasant rumors are published a year before me



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He admits to having spoken to Landsberg about party management issues, telling him what could be done differently, but refusing to publicly criticize his grandson.

Journalist Jolanta Svirnelytė and Professor Vytautas Landsbergis talked about it in the TV3 studio.

How do you assess party ratings and the fact that conservative party ratings have decreased, as polls show?

Well, what I have here is a lot to appreciate. It is falling, it is rising. Now to start distracting you, grabbing your head would be very frivolous.

But you led the TS-LKD and the party was always high with your head held high. Now the youth have arrived, who are said to be the most loyal conservative voters. And now support is declining. What are the reasons for this?

In general, the world is strange and people behave strangely. And in Lithuania, people were very determined, very heroic. And now many people are very indifferent. Don’t even go to the polls. There was such a fight: the right to vote for one’s own power, to have one’s own state, as was the attitude. And now … Now half the people don’t even go to the polls.

And maybe the party will disappoint those people?

Wait, this is not a party. People are frustrated in some way by themselves, I don’t know how to explain that. I don’t see much difference in how we live here. Maybe if strangers come from the East, maybe you don’t want to. But do you need to prepare thoroughly for resistance there? You still need to interview people, but resistance begins with attitude, participation in elections, and choosing who votes in elections. Shall I vote for a bottle of beer? After all, they also vote for a bottle of beer.

But don’t you see mistakes in the management of the Conservative Party?

Listen, you’re trying to get me a little intrigued about my party.

Without intrigue, you are a person with a lot of experience and yet you have led both the country and the party. You will probably see more.

I would like our party, especially among young people, to have more concern or a desire to know history, to know political struggles and to be prepared if they have to participate. This is perhaps small. Oh, it’s a school here right now, and the school is not doing its job. Maybe a family? But the family does not have time. Busy parents, kids somewhere for their own affairs, their separate world, games, computers. It may be that life is very different and we elderly people like me would like our nation to have a more conscious preparation for life and its trials in different generations.

And the proof of Lithuania’s independence, independence, European line is constant. Are young people or a certain part of the people up to middle age, are they determined to live and create in Lithuania and not to catch the scammers, not to bring the scammers and deceivers to power, to make a fair, only Lithuania who has something to fight for? Not only because of his freely raised flag, but there must be a flag at the heart, an attitude. We need to be a different country than that rotten neighbor in the East.

Recent surveys show that peasant qualification has increased. Do you think it really went so well here, or did the coronavirus pandemic help them increase?

I don’t know if it’s a jump or not. Being on screen all the time … Sometimes I even thought that if I had to choose a president now, Veryga might be elected president. It’s visible all the time, it hits in some way, so to speak, to calm people down, to put it to sleep. Maybe people want to put them to sleep and pet them regardless of the dangers.

It is difficult to say about that human psychology. The fact that they get a lot of extra non-deductible money for social purposes, to share people, to share their supporters, to bribe the media … See what happens to the media.

Elections are coming. Who do you think will win them? Will conservatives be the rulers?

I’m not the one browsing, guess. I am neither an astrologer nor a letter … If a catastrophe comes suddenly, it will create preconditions for people of power to be highly visible heroes, to distribute money to all, and therefore appear to save them and Lithuania. They will gain more popularity.

For many years you have been one of the most unpopular politicians in Lithuania. This year, recent polls show that his grandson, Gabriel Landsberg, has outdone him. How did that happen?

You speak unnecessarily in such paradoxes. I didn’t care at all how you tell me. Clearly, I know that there are intense and constant years before me, for decades, all kinds of more unpleasant rumors, contracted by a group of people.

“Oh, the collective farms were lucky, Landsbergis came, destroyed the collective farms.” What will you explain to them? That the collective farms could not be sustained, they were bankrupt, and there were large subsidies from the Soviet Union for nothing more than those collective farms. But those subsidies have ended. Neither Landsberg nor Vagnorius was able to take billions out of his pocket and further into the collective farms.

But there are other things about the grandson, because there are no longer collective farms.

But to discover, I don’t know what is against the conservatives, against Gabriel, is to discover something.

And do you see his mistakes?

I understand that you speak as if you have a task. I am reluctant to say that I should start criticizing Gabriel Landsberg. I tell him what I think should be done differently. Why do I have to start doing this in public now? These are conversations between them, which are not explained to everyone to explode.

A Rosatom spokesman said Astrava would be released in early August, just a few weeks away. Does that mean we now have to prepare for everything, or in other words, for anyone?

Of course, we must be prepared at all times when we live with a neighbor who is full of hatred and aggression throughout the European Union, but we are the first geographically, and we also constantly speak against ourselves with a great sense of revenge for the way in that we have harmed the Soviet Union. These are the feelings of revenge there, all kinds of emotions have a lot of meaning. Especially in Russia. Elsewhere, politicians perhaps have more restraint.

But you are also protesting, organizing campaigns. Isn’t that already spoons in the afternoon? Can we do something now?

Well, as long as you are alive, as long as you are alive. If you decide to die anyway, you can, you cover your head, you can still live, right? That is what I have yet to try here. And we want to live, so while we can, we will resist.

But doesn’t that mean our government is still languishing? Perhaps something needed to be done at a time when Belarus was beginning to speak? Perhaps then it was necessary to turn to the European Union, to international experts?

Perhaps. You know, you can philosophize and write accounts here, who, where, what they said, why they didn’t say it. So what Vladimir Putin is doing is not asking anything. What will come to ask little Lithuania? Is it possible to do such a thing right next to your capital? You will never come to ask. It was possible to prepare Europe more, she is also a savior.

Perhaps now you have realized, perhaps without realizing it, perhaps realizing that there is not only an attack against Lithuania: it is an attack against the European Union. Test your solidarity. And that solidarity was not very visible before. Will it manifest now or not? Our goal is that of Lithuania not to buy that dirty electricity in the European Union. There is no clear answer to this.

Lithuania, for its part, said: we will not buy, we will not miss. It should be clarified that we will not fail, not just buy ourselves. And then it begins: Latvians want to buy, they are not friends. This is not what you are friends with. Why should we assume that we will prevent Latvia from behaving indecently?

And how do you see the fact that President Gitanas Nausėda said in Kruonys that perhaps we will give Kruonis to Belarusians, just for a lot of money, for millions?

Sometimes there are no sayings with enough precision. Apparently someone is persuading him to form, and they really want to create an emergency situation before the emergency where they say that Kruonis is the only salvation. That is, they do not have to do such situations and they do not have the right to operate that power plant without a reserve, if something happens there, then where to put that excess energy, how to stop it, they have to have reserves.

These may be Russian reserves in – with whom they work. This is a Russian project. Leave Russia and give her reservations. But Russia’s reserves are far away, more convenient for them: we will demand that Lithuania give its Kruonis, and Lithuania will be afraid.

Perhaps you are afraid if our president already says that, in any case, it is for a lot of money, but will we give it?

I think he was probably trying to influence the president in this place, because arguably this is not our problem.

The tv3.lr portal recalls that 14.3% promise to vote for the TS-LKD opposition in the elections. population, the conservative rating was lowered by three percentage points to 17% in March. support for the population

The ruling Union of Peasants and Greens of Lithuania would receive 13.4 percent in the Seimas elections. 12.4% would have voted in favor of the peasants. Respondents The opposition Lithuanian Social Democratic Party, if the Seimas elections were held today, would receive 9.1 percent. Support from respondents (8.3 percent in March), 4.6 percent would vote for the Labor Party. survey participants (5.1% in March).

Vilmorus conducted a survey of the country’s population from June 5 to 13 on behalf of the Lietuvos Rytas newspaper.



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