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The Yugoslav dictator Tito personally led the physical liquidation of tens of thousands of his opponents. Slovenia and Croatia are drenched in blood. To this day, the agents of the sinister secret police of Tito UDBA occupy leadership positions in these countries. This was stated in an exclusive interview for BGNES by the Slovenian journalist and publicist Roman Lelyak.
Lelyak, 56, is one of the most famous investigators of the crimes of dictator Josip Broz Tito. Lelyak was personally involved in the discovery of the mass grave at the Huda Yama mine, where several thousand people were killed, including women and children. Some of them were boarded up alive and others were thrown alive into a 46 meter deep well. Author of several books, including “Huda Yama”, “Maribor – the largest grave of the Croats”, “Agents of the UDBA”, as well as documentaries: “Huda Yama – the most hidden secret of the UDBA”. Leljak reveals the names of 65,000 UDBA officers in Slovenia, whose population is 1.8 million.
It reveals that former Yugoslav agents of the Yugoslav secret services hold leadership positions in Slovenia and Croatia: banks, big business, politics, the judiciary and the media. In 2015, Lelyak told the Slovenian parliament that 35% of Slovenes were affiliated with the UDBA. He then revealed that in the late 1980s, a deadly pencil-shaped weapon was ordered by the Yugoslav secret police in Ljubljana to eliminate political opponents. Stork shows one of these pencils.
The BGNES agency published the full text of the interview with him.
BGNES: How many mass graves have been found and how many are there in Slovenia and Croatia?
Roman Leljak: The Slovenian and Croatian lands are soaked in blood, the blood of many who did not believe and did not want the communist government in the new state established in 1945. In Slovenia we have more than 700 mass graves, of which 630 places are registered. . for executions. The largest place of execution in Slovenia was Tezno, near Maribor, where between May 30 and June 15, 1945, some 30,000 victims died. Of these, only 1,109 were exhumed and buried in a mass grave. This would not have happened if the Maribor-Celje highway had not been built in 2000, when the remains of 1,109 victims were found in an area just 70 meters from the future highway, 17 of them at a distance of one meter. Among them were women and children. Most of these places of execution have not been exhumed and the victims still do not have the right to a dignified grave or to be identified.
In Croatia there are 1,200 places of execution of this type. There the victims do not rest in a dignified grave either. They are still lying where they suffered. The crime scene, the place of execution in the normal civilized world, should not be the grave of these people.
BGNES: How many died in these graves and are there women and children among them? Why were they killed? What nationalities were they?
Roman Lelyak: These days an exhumation took place near Brezice in Slovenia. 139 bodies were found in Stratishte. Only female bodies. Among many of them we find the skeletons of pregnant women as well as children of different ages.
BGNES: Former Slovenian Interior Minister Ivan Macek-Matija is among the main organizers of the massacre. Did the Yugoslav dictator Tito know about these massacres?
Roman Lelyak: Ivan Machek – Matthias is just one of those who committed genocide against dissidents. The genocide was personally led by Josip Broz Tito with his army: the Yugoslav People’s Army, led by the Communist Party. Josip Broz Tito did not assume leadership of the new state in the capital, Belgrade, on May 9, 1945. On May 1, 1945, he left for Croatia and Slovenia and personally led all the executions of his political opponents who had fled to Austria and Most of them were returned to Yugoslavia by the British Army, where they were killed at the sites of mass executions.
BGNES: OZNA and UDBA for how long will they continue to physically destroy opponents of the regime?
Roman Lelyak: OZNA, later renamed UDBA (State Security Directorate), is the political police of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia. The last political assassination took place in 1990. It will be clear to readers when I say that Silvo Gorenz, who now lives in Krško in Slovenia, was the head of the Yugoslav UDBA from 1970 to 1972, and during this period he gave the green light to liquidation. of 27 people. Croatian student Stipe Crnogorac was kidnapped at the University of Salzburg, the UDBA took him to Ljubljana and his fingerprints were lost. The tape with a recording of the interrogation of Stepan Chernogorats has even been preserved and found. In Austria a criminal complaint has been filed, but no criminal proceedings have been initiated so far. Today, Silvo Gorenz lives peacefully protected by all the authorities of the Republic of Slovenia.
BGNES: You claim that there were more than 65,000 UDBA agents in Slovenia. Do UDBA agents still influence the countries of the former Yugoslavia today?
Roman Lelyak: In four books I have listed all the UDBA associates in Slovenia. Many of them today are politicians, businessmen and bankers. The political system as a whole is governed by them. Unfortunately, in 1990 there was no purge or ban on UDBA members and communists from participating in political activities. In one night they formed their political parties and continued the working methods of the Communist Party. Milan Kucan was the last president of the Communist Party of Slovenia and the first president of independent Slovenia. Even today, this affects all personnel in the country.
BGNES: Why, 40 years after the death of the dictator, is the truth about his crimes still unknown?
Roman Lelyak: I think I have already answered this question. Unfortunately, the communists of Slovenia and Croatia changed the books of their parties for new ones with a democratic color and continued the political war, the so-called smooth transition path of change. That is why many topics in Slovenia and Croatia remain taboo. The fear of the red revolutionaries still reigns in our countries.
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