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Ms. Le Thi Thanh Thuy in court on the morning of September 19 – Photo: DUYEN PHAN
Before that, on September 18, the representative of the Prosecutor’s Office (VKS) said that the VKS did not claim that Mr. Nguyen Thanh Tai and Ms. Thuy had an illegal relationship, because only “insiders could clarify” but Mr. Tai and Ms. Thuy There are money transfers with each other.
“I can not sleep”
Ms. Le Thi Thanh Thuy said she was “frustrated and couldn’t sleep” when she heard the accusations from the VKS representative. Ms. Thuy said that she does not deny a close relationship between Mr. Tai and his family. However, Ms. Thuy said that the fact that VKS had announced the information that she transferred money to Mr. Tai generated negative public opinion about the relationship between her and Mr. Tai.
Ms. Thuy said that the background to the story is because she learned that Mr. Tai had prostate cancer and was preparing to go to Singapore for treatment.
“At this time, with sincerity and communication with Mr. Tai, I asked Mr. Tai about who would accompany him to care for him and the cost of the treatment. Next, I told Mr. Tai that I know the bank. and will open a credit card for Mr. Tai in order to pay the hospital fees.
After I returned home from the hospital, Mr. Tai met me and returned my money. This is the amount of money that I and my family supported Mr. Tai while he was seriously ill, “said defendant Thuy.
Regarding the fact that VKS accused Ms Thuy of cheating from the beginning by claiming to have financial capacity and experience, but in reality the company was only just established and with money borrowed from relatives, Ms Thuy urgently said that in that At the moment He has 60% of the capital contribution in Hoa May May Company, while the remaining 40% is from his family.
Because at that time he had a lot of stocks, real estate stocks, but at that time the real estate market was frozen, so if he sold it, he would lose money, while his family had idle money, so his family agreed to lend it. .
Ms. Thuy also said that she does not influence Mr. Nguyen Thanh Tai to participate favorably in the project.
“A woman like me can not influence a permanent vice president. But if the prosecution, I have to affect an entire system” – said Ms. Thuy.
Attorney Trach suggested that the Panel apply the principle of innocent speculation – Photo: DUYEN PHAN
The principle of innocence is suggested.
In discussing and responding, attorney Nguyen Huu The Trach (Ms. Thuy’s defense attorney) proposed to the Panel to apply the principle of innocence and declare that Ms. Thuy did not commit a crime in violation of the regulations on administration and use of the property. The state causes loss and waste.
According to the attorney, VKS only used Mr. Tai’s testimony admitting to having an emotional relationship with Ms. Thuy as evidence to charge defendant Thuy. After accusing Ms. Thuy, followed by indicting Mr. Tai and other defendants.
The lawyer said that the only basis for charging Ms. Thuy was “taking advantage of her emotional relationship with Mr. Nguyen Thanh Tai to incite and seek profit.” However, the record does not have any evidence to prove the relationship and this has an impact on Mr. Tai.
Meanwhile, the law stipulates not to use the confession of the accused as the sole proof of the accusation.
Attorney Trach claimed that the state agency’s decision expressed the will of the state agency. Whether Hoa May Company proposed right or wrong, it cannot be used to accuse the proponent.
The fact that VKS said that “4 companies under the Ministry of Industry and Commerce sold 50% of their shares to Kinh Do Company, earning 200 billion. So how much profit did 30% of the shares. The State has lost money right now “is wrong. Because 30% of the shares are still owned by Hoa May May Company, if it is not sold, how can damage occur from now on? It must be the real damage, not speculative.
Regarding the VKS request not to confiscate 50% of the capital contributed to Lavenue Company from Kido Company, considering it a civil transaction and the transfer occurred before the moment in which the defendants committed the crime, the law said that determining the transfer of 4 companies under the Ministry of Industry and Commerce with Kido is a civil transaction, which is incomplete and does not reflect the true nature of the case.
Because it is a civil transaction, this transaction leads to a state capital transfer, not just a civil transaction.
“If VKS believes that these 4 companies were transferred before committing criminal acts, please inform VKS when the crime is determined. Although the transfer agreement process is from March 2010, the same principle between the 4 companies signed with the company Kido on August 20, 2010.
4 companies signed loan contracts on September 15, 2010 and signed transfer contracts on October 20, 2010. While Lavenue Company’s business registration certificate was issued on September 10, 2010. So the time of transfer it only comes into effect from the date the company registration license is issued ”- questioned the lawyer.
The lawyer also said that the Kinh Do Company spent 200 billion to buy the capital contribution of 4 companies in Lavenue without understanding the legal documents of the project. Because Kinh Do spent 200 billion, not 20 million.
The lawyer said there was injustice due to the same investment and capital contribution but VKS proposed to seize Hoa May’s capital contribution and return the capital contribution to Kinh Do Company.
Mr. Nguyen Thanh Tai – Photo: DUYEN PHAN
Pressure for constant persecution and investigation
Furthermore, Mr. Nguyen Thanh Tai said that the days in prison reported on the relationship between him and Ms. Thuy as a sentence for him. Yesterday when the VKS did not confirm that the relationship between Mr. Thuy and Ms. Thuy was an illegal relationship as it had clarified “unfair” for him.
Mr. Tai said that he was not the one who introduced the project to Ms. Thuy, Ms. Thuy has never come to see him to join the project.
Regarding the content of the case, Mr. Tai said that no city policy was legalized either. Mr. Tai admitted his mistake, but the reason was due to a new pressure that led to mistakes.
“Ho Chi Minh City has been criticized for its perception of leadership, in the past the state economy was seen as a decision, but when integrated, it must change. Why do I have to sign a lot, sign fast? Because this job assigns me half. so I had to deal with a lot of things, but I signed quickly because I was advocating for administrative reform.
I didn’t know about the policy change 4 months later. I informed the secretary and the chairman of the People’s Committee of the City and I agreed “- explained Mr. Tai.
In addition, Mr. Dao Anh Kiet (former director of the Department of Natural Resources and Environment) also expressed his opinion. Mr. Kiet said that he himself is not influenced by anyone, not even by his own interests, and wants the Panel to evaluate a process.
“I have 4 prosecutions and 1 case under investigation. For every land case in Ho Chi Minh City, I am shaking because there is no case that does not end with the issuance of a land use right certificate. But I am the director, I am not authorized to sign attached. With such a heavy workload I have to depend on the specialized department “- shared Mr. Kiet.
