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İYİ Istanbul Party Deputy Ümit Özdağ’s claim that the CHP, İYİ Party, HDP and Saadet Party were working on a joint constitution in 2018 caused controversy.
The parties to the lawsuit spoke with İsmail Saymaz from Sözcü.
PROF. DR. KABOĞLU: FOUR PARTY ATTENDED
Did the four parties come together and work on the Constitution?
Yes, this work has been carried out, but without a deputy, at the beginning of 2018 a study was carried out as a roadmap of the report of common principles for the joint parliamentary regime with more expert representatives of these parties. Ümit Özdağ had already heard about this, now he did something in his own party and led him to something, to separatism and so on.
In what area did you carry out this activity?
We did it at the request of TÜSES. I was a pioneer as president of the constitution. Of course there was also political support, but …
Did they attend the parties on an official level?
In fact, we did it with the experts of the parties, the constitutionalists stood out.
Did the parties send experts?
Actually this constitutionalist, in the sense that this associate professor can represent us …
What parties did you attend?
More than four parties attended by expert representatives.
What has been said?
Here how to overcome the constitutional problems of Turkey? How will the one-man regime be overcome? What kind of return will be made to the parliamentary regime in the elections to be held in November 2019? An answer to this question was sought. There is talk of a draft constitution. There is no draft constitution. Questions such as how to reconcile the parties within the framework of common principles were tried to answer with knowledge of constitutional law.
So what is 30 pages of text?
There are principles there. Otherwise, it is not possible to write the articles.
How many meetings have been held?
I don’t remember the problem at this time, but there have been several such meetings. I was in charge of the commission.
Have you not proposed amendments to the first three articles of the Constitution?
No, the matter was not written or anything, could such a thing happen?
Did IYI Party know?
But what happened? They took it as if they had found a mine and used it in an intra-party arrangement.
İYİ PARTİ ISPARTA DEPUTY NURİ OKUTAN
How and where did they call you?
I have never participated in a constitutional amendment or preparation. But I participated in a study like this: the TUSES Foundation invited me. At that time he was at the MHP. We work with TÜSES, both in MHP and independently. His invitation to me was constitutional. They invite everyone. There are people from non-governmental organizations, there are academics. People talk about social problems. I attended several times.
What was the name of these meetings? Was there HDP too?
What he knew were ‘search meetings’. He participated, I am not in a position to say that he did not participate, but this is open to society and parties.
Has the constitution been talked about?
There was a meeting as the independence of the judiciary. I saw Kaboğlu there for the first time. Kaboğlu made the following proposal: ‘We are discussing the judicial system. It would not be correct to argue like this. This must be addressed in a constitution. Then, from there, our complaint to the presidential system can be resolved. ” He had a draft constitution that he had prepared earlier. It came with an eraser. He pulled out the brochure, ‘I have a job like that. Based on this, we can base constitutional debates, ‘he said. The people there expressed their views. I told you too. I attended one of them representing the party. It also had a headline like ‘Crossing Waters’ and ‘Middle East’.
I do not know the next meetings. But now Kaboğlu wants to feed his work, ‘There was a meeting under my presidency’, etc. This is a complete lie. We have never worked on constitutional articles, entitled constitution. We didn’t do it with anyone. There was never a situation in which four political parties met in those meetings. I did not represent the IYI Party, but I was there. I don’t know who came from the HDP.
Have you talked to Kaboğlu?
I did not speak. I have question marks in my head. Kaboğlu also got into things like getting their opinions by showing this text to our friends at the İYİ party. We know that other friends of mine have tried to get the text accepted. But the friends did not give a face. I think that Kaboğlu has the idea of obtaining a political income and I do not trust his good will.
VICE PRESIDENT OF THE IYI UĞUR POYRAZ PARTY
Have you had a meeting with the AKP on the constitutional issue?
There is no meeting. Such a meeting cannot be questioned without the knowledge of our boards and authorized headquarters. Nor can such a meeting be held without registering in public.
Have you talked to Ümit Özdağ?
No, I did not speak. A healthy person does not do this. I guess it trolls politics. Now I am preparing a constitution with HDP, CHP and SP and AK Party. This is not really healthy.
