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17 years later, Manuel Luís Goucha will stop presenting “Você na TV”, which became the historic morning show on TVI. On January 4, 2021, the first Monday of the new year, the successor, “Dois para a Dez”, debuts with Cláudio Ramos and Maria Botelho Moniz. It is a new era in the Queluz de Baixo station.
Manuel Luís Goucha spends the afternoons, without nostalgia or regrets, replacing Fátima Lopes. The new show will be called “Goucha” and it will premiere on the same day, it will have a different registration and is now being prepared.
NiT and other media spoke with the TVI presenter about all these changes this Monday, November 23.
How does it feel to go from morning to afternoon at TVI?
I don’t feel anything, it’s almost 30 years, and it’s a very long cycle, but I don’t miss anything. I guess I’ll feel the same as when I left “Praça da Alegria” and RTP after ten years and went to TVI the following week, which is: I didn’t feel anything. I don’t emotionally cling to the projects I do. Yes, I hold on professionally tooth and nail. So it’s over, it’s over, mornings are no longer mine, they become afternoons. Quiet. I am also in a very comfortable position, which is: I am not saying goodbye. I say goodbye to a project and start another the next day. So it is much more attractive to start something from scratch than to say goodbye to something that is 16 years old, I think it is 17. Or that you are 29 years old, if we generalize to the mornings that I worked every day. I am very practical, I am from the future.
The afternoon program has different characteristics. Is the morning mood still good?
Good humor should always be there, but that is my characteristic. Even if a conversation is dense and even somewhat tragic, I always try, of course I cannot play in the face of tragedy, and by the way, people who are with me, sad as they are, often come out of tears to laugh. Or by the outline of a laugh. The program is being thought out, outlined, it is necessarily more conversation, conversations with more time, with very interesting segments, which for now I cannot unravel. But Manuel Luís Goucha will always be there … Perhaps with less antics … The clown is something that allows the morning, especially as a couple. By the way, we watched this weekend for six hours. If I say “kill”, Cristina has already flayed. But this is achieved with a partner who has a great affinity and a great power of cohesion. Now, in an afternoon show, the rhythms are different.
Was this the show you wanted to host?
I never thought about what will come next. I am a television manufacturer, they move me to projects where the respective directions find me more effective. Of course, if it’s a project that I don’t believe in, that has nothing to do with me, I refuse. I have that possibility. Now, I never thought about what I was going to do in the last two years of this current contract. If I was going to stay in the morning or if I was going to move to the afternoon or if I was going to do something other than the morning … I never thought about that. I have a very calm position with regard to my work.
Celebrate 66 years in December.
Are you thinking of staying longer?
When the contract ends I will be 68 years old. I know I don’t look like it, but I’m turning 66 on Christmas Day. So it’s natural that at 68 you don’t want to do shows every day. I don’t mind doing a week. Or not. The day I left television, I left, I have other things to do in life, that is, enjoy the weather and the Alentejo, still without a stroller. So I have no idea. Until December 31, 2022 I will be doing the afternoon program and then it will be seen soon. What I usually say is that you might want to slow down. People don’t believe, not even the person who has lived with me for 21 years believes that this is possible. But when I say I want to slow down, it’s because things appear on TV, like “Tell me.” [que vai continuar a fazer, em alternância com Maria Cerqueira Gomes]. Now this six-hour Saturday show went really well, and it went so well that there’s another one on Saturday, again at six. Hey, calm down. It’s more for me after having time to enjoy my things and write. Now, I don’t know what will happen in two years, I don’t know what will happen tomorrow. [risos].
Will the adaptation to present the afternoon program be natural?
Wow, because I’m not going to change anything in my life, which is something that people ask: ‘Are you going to get up at another time?’ No. Even on weekends, being in Alentejo or here, I get up at seven. Since the beginning of the pandemic, I have been up at seven. It used to be at 6:15 am, but the eighth meeting is gone. Now I’ll keep getting up at seven and going to bed at nine at night. And then I watch a movie until ten. The only thing that changes is that the preparation of the program stops being done in the afternoon, and starts preparing in the morning. It turns out that I have an advantage: I win on weekends in Alentejo. Instead of arriving on Sunday afternoon, I can arrive calm at noon on Monday. Therefore, I have three nights in Alentejo. After all, it could have been more time [risos].
Regarding the public, will it also be a different adaptation?
I really don’t know what the afternoon audience is, because I already replaced Fatima [Lopes] several times in “A Tarde é Sua”… There are bangs that arrive in the morning, but then there is another audience. I think the biggest concern will be in the content of the program. After all, the people who like me stay with me and they already know how I am. I believe in that loyalty. If you can get more people in the afternoon, so much the better.
Does that mean you’ve done everything you wanted on television, can you go in peace?
I think we always have to do everything on television, but what I am saying is that I am very calm about the future. I have not had this “what am I going to do” anxiety for many years. Life took charge of giving me a new challenge, two years after the end of another contract with TVI. There I imagined that now I would make a new schedule. We are talking about a program that will start from scratch. With a different name, with a different setting, with different content and a different presenter. I’m not worried about my future at all. Imagine that the program is going to be a success and that after two years they tell me: Manuel Luís, you have to continue two more years. OK! Believe it or not, that ends here. OK! I have gained this peace of mind over the years.
And what is the name of the show and when will it debut?
The premiere is on January 4. “Você na TV” ends on December 31 and New Years, new program. Both mine and that of Cláudio and Maria.
What will the last “You on TV” be like?
The last “Você na TV”… The programs have to be recorded, so it will be the best of the best programs, because we will be on the sets. No nostalgia, none of that, I hate that kind of thing. It’s over, it’s over, he’s dead, king dead, king established. Dead program, put program. Name [do novo programa] is “Goucha”. I did not like.
Manuel Luís Goucha has been presenting morning shows for almost 30 years.
No? Why?
We all have very inflated egos, of course, don’t we? We are vain, if we did not make television, if we did not present ourselves. But I thought this might be an exercise in little humility [risos]I’m not humble but … why? You will tell me that the name of the presenters is very fashionable in the programs, María Elisa started it many years ago in RTP, it was the first program with her own name. Honestly, I didn’t find it very funny. Why Goucha? Why look at my belly button through the name of a program? But the arguments were very strong and make perfect sense. Because throughout these almost 30 years I have always heard that it is said “I was in Goucha”, “I went to Goucha”, “I am going to Goucha”. More than going to “Você na TV” or going to “Praça da Alegria”, it was “I’m going to Goucha”. Even among the technicians, they are often found in the bar, “what are you going to do today?” “Today I’m from Goucha.” There are those who say “today I am going to mount Goucha”, who is mounting the Goucha scene [risos], which makes it other games. When they used these arguments, I said, okay, done, it makes sense. And today I can already write a text about the name and I will explore it. So it makes sense: “Goucha” vs. “Júlia”.
Is the program already defined?
No, starting today we will start working. Of course there are ideas, there is a scenario that I do not know, is that you do not know what it is to work with Cristina [risos], Cristina wraps everything that concerns this news with great secrecy. I know some ideas for the program that I like a lot, in fact, a program with the name “Goucha” presented by me necessarily has to have content that is consistent with my personality and what I like. And with what I think the public will like.
Did you make a specific request for anything you want to have in the program?
No, I have ideas for people I’d like to be with regularly on the show, but no. I do not work [risos].
For someone with so many years of experience, does the public miss you?
They completely pass me by, I don’t even know the audience I have. I know I have won many tomorrows, but I have no idea. Only when they tell me. But I already won and lost, I won the “Praça da Alegria” many years ago, I lost every morning in “Olá Portugal”. I lost the first years of “Você na TV” with Cristina. I won the “You on TV” for ten years. I lost a year and a half when Cristina was on the other side. Lately I am winning a lot of tomorrows. That’s not important. I have to have fun, be happy doing television. Of course, private televisions are at the height of the public. But I often say that this is not what ails me. In fact, I have other examples. Júlia Pinheiro spent eight years in the morning, did not win a morning and never saw her sad and unmotivated. But it just isn’t. I spent a year and a half losing and getting so hit by the magazines, but I think it’s part of the game. I know it’s just the game, that I’ve always wanted to play, that’s why it’s part of it. But I never came down, I didn’t come down either.
Is it a luxury that only veterans have, of not caring about the audience?
I have nothing to prove to anyone. Someone is first, someone is second, and someone is third. It is not because I am second, because I have lost for some time that I stop being the professional that I have always been. I know that I am a very good professional. Therefore, with a clear conscience. It is not a concern at all. It was worse if you took that weight from the audience that you weren’t gaining for a TV show. No. It doesn’t affect me in the least.
