After a judge ruled that Mary Trump was free to speak openly about the revelations in her best-selling new book about her uncle Donald, Too much and never enoughshe has appeared in Good morning america and The Daily Beast podcast The new abnormal. On Wednesday night, he made his late-night television debut with Stephen Colbert.
Now before you start, have you seen my show? Because I talk about your uncle a lot, ”said Colbert. When she said yes, he asked, “Do you enjoy it? Do you agree with my show?
“I think it’s incredible, actually,” she replied.
The appreciation was mutual as Colbert clearly valued her vision of the man she taunts every night. And as a clinical psychologist, he wanted to know how she would treat what she describes in her book as emotional damage her uncle suffered during his childhood. “Is there anything that can be done to get the president to give her some kind of comfort, that would somehow be better for the rest of us?” I ask.
“It’s a horrible answer, and I hate to say it, but I think the answer is no,” said Mary Trump. “Partially because it is extremely difficult to help someone who doesn’t know they need help. I think at this point in her life, it would be impossible for Donald to admit to any kind of weakness or disability that needs to be addressed. Unfortunately, he also seems to be surrounded by people who are perfectly happy that he behaves the way he behaves now. Whatever their schedules are, they are not so interested in making Donald a better person. “
Colbert later asked his guest if the other members of his family are aware of Donald Trump’s personality flaws and simply choose not to acknowledge them. “They are aware,” he said. “But they are all united in a way that would make it impossible to violate what they would consider family loyalty. So none of them will ever say anything.
“I think if we just look at what he experienced as a child, we should have great compassion for what that child experienced, witnessed, and suffered,” said Mary Trump. However, with that said, Donald is an adult human being who understands the difference between right and wrong. He doesn’t think the rules apply to him, but he understands them. And that we don’t need compassion and it certainly doesn’t mean we don’t have to hold him accountable. ”
When asked if she had ever seen her uncle take responsibility for something in her life, she said, “That is the problem. When you are not responsible and people are not, the message is: “I can continue doing what I am doing.” And the message Donald receives is that it can also be duplicated. And he’s getting away with it.
As for whether he was afraid of publishing this book, he said: “No, I hope there will be retaliation. But I felt an obligation to do this. And that surpasses all other considerations. I am taking the necessary precautions. But no, I am not afraid at all. ”
In the book, Mary Trump calls the president’s father, Fred Trump Sr., a “high-functioning sociopath.” So Colbert wanted to know if that label also applies to Donald Trump. “Do you think the President of the United States has sociopathic tendencies, and if so, is he highly functioning?” I ask.
“But he clearly feels comfortable doing heartless things. Clearly, he doesn’t seem to be interested in empathy.“
“Donald has so many pathologies and they are so complex, there is so much comorbidity that it’s really hard to find out what’s going on without testing and that sort of thing,” he replied. “But he clearly feels comfortable doing heartless things. He clearly doesn’t seem to be interested in empathy. ”
So she thinks it is “fair to say that he shows sociopathic tendencies” but “equally fair to say that he is not highly functioning at all, and that is something that should make everyone in this country stop.” In fact, she thinks he would be unable to function on his own in the “real world” and instead has been allowed to “fail spectacularly” throughout his adult life.
Finally, Colbert had Mary Trump consider the cognitive test that the President bragged about incessantly. “I proved it was there because I did well,” the president told Sean Hannity earlier this month. “I took it at Walter Reed, a medical center, in front of the doctors, and they were very surprised.” Just tonight, during another Fox News interview, he claimed he got “extra points” for remembering a series of five simple words in the correct order: “Person, woman, man, camera, television”.
“What is the purpose of a test like that?” the host asked.
“From what I understand, and I don’t know exactly what the test is, I never used it because I worked with a totally different type of patient,” he said. “But I think it is a test to detect early signs of dementia. So you know, we don’t know how it went, but as far as I’m concerned, he’s talking about it the way he’s talking, he’s failing the test. “
“Boasting about passing a cognitive test is one of the ways you fail a cognitive test,” added Colbert.
All Mary Trump could say was, “Yes.”
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