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The president of the Progressive Socialist Party, Walid Jumblatt, said: “There are people around the President of the Republic, General Michel Aoun, who do not want Saad Hariri as prime minister.” In an interview with the newspaper L’Orient-Le Jour, he referred to the most salient events that took place in his meeting with President Aoun on March 20 in Baabda.
He considered that “there are two reasons related to the current impasse, which are the weak relations between Hariri and the head of the Free Patriotic Movement, Gebran Bassil, in addition to the Iranian will not to loosen control over Lebanon.”
And about how the idea of forming a government of 24 ministers was born, he said, “Aoun was nice at the meeting,” and that he told him that he came alone and not as a mediator, and Jumblatt said that he said during the meeting that “he knows that Prime Minister Hariri is sticking to a formula of government consisting of 18 ministers. ” And that Hariri is the representative of the Sunnis, “and pointed out that” Aoun told him that he prefers to form a government of 20 ministers. “Jumblatt said:” Then I presented him with the formula of government consisting of 24 ministers, so that each coalition would have eight ministers so that no party had a third blocker. He replied that there would be no third-party obstructor, “so I told him that I am not an envoy from Hariri, but I will send the two former ministers Ghazi Al-Aridi and Wael Abu Faour to inform him of the answer. “.
He added: “Hariri was not happy at first and I thought he had undertaken this task unilaterally, then he indicated that the 24-minister formula is Hezbollah’s idea. We inform you that this formula suits everyone and there will be no third-party blockade. Then calmed down and asked not to reveal what happened “, Al-Aridi and Abu Faour replied that this is not possible and that our friend Nabih Berri must be informed, and this is what we always do so that there is no default and in order to confirm the coordination between the three main poles, and this is what happened.
Regarding the chances of success of this governmental formula and what stands in the way of his behavior in the course of its implementation, he replied: “There are people around President Aoun who do not like Saad Hariri and are trying to find formulas. constitutional by various means. to get rid of it, as long as there is no such formula in the constitution, and this matter cannot be applied. It will also lead to an additional suspension, as it is not only unconstitutional. “
Regarding the fact that Jumblatt always gives importance to geopolitical influences, and if he thinks that the causes of the current impasse are external or internal, he responds: “Both exist. There are internal obstacles, and there is an alienation of Gibran Bassil towards Hariri, after his three “. -Years of friendship, when they were together in the government Before the last one. Why didn’t they agree? If we could have reached a consensus, then we would have crossed the middle of the road, and this is in fact the conclusion reached by Patrick Durrell (French President Emmanuel Macron’s adviser for Near East affairs), who spoke about the need for find common ground between Hariri and Bassil. Ironically, I asked Aoun during the meeting if I could do something to reconcile them, and he replied: I don’t know why they fought and why.
Regarding the external reason, Jumblatt said: “Questions are also being raised as to whether the impasse is influenced by external factors, especially in light of the recent speech by Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah on March 18. This is partially true when you look at the fact that the Americans provided an opportunity. They resumed negotiations with the Houthis in Amman, while the Houthis continue to attack and continue their daily attacks on targets in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. That is why it is clear that Tehran he is also at the scene of the attack and calls for the lifting of the sanctions without preconditions. The review must also be considered. Al-Kabeer, who organized, organized three days ago against Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi in Baghdad. Based on the above, I don’t think the Iranians will give up their weight in Lebanon. “
Does this explain the transformation of Nasrallah, who now wants a techno-political government and not a technocratic government? He replied: “Let’s go beyond the details related to the form of government, whether they are technocrats or not. Either they want to give the green light to their birth or not. In fact, we have tried a government that includes ministers called” technocrats. ” some imbalances have been identified, and the question that arises is whether Iran intends to ease control. About Lebanon or not. “
And if the diplomatic movement that has taken place in the arena in recent days is capable of stimulating and helping to get out of the impasse, Jumblatt responded by saying: “Yes, I think it can help, but there are two internal and external elements. , and the ambassadors can unleash some side, but I see that France is the most. Interested in saving what was left of her initiative ”.
What if the focus of the “Free Patriotic Movement” in the partisan parties that will appoint the ministers is an excuse or a justified excuse? He said: “Everyone must take responsibility in this impasse. At the beginning, when the two parties were in The stage of talks and negotiations were going well, Hariri suggested that Aoun had to obtain the justice portfolio, but then he retracted. They then reached a compromise, which is to assign the Ministry of the Interior to Aoun, who will assign him to the head of the Supreme Judicial Council, Suhail Abboud, and Al-Adl for Hariri, as long as he comes up with a name that is supported by Aoun, but all matters have been turned upside down.
Is the obstruction caused by the “I” war between Hariri and Bassil? He said: “This issue exists, but at the same time I have a mixed impression about this disconnect between the two parties, that some embassies have set certain conditions.”
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