Salvini: «Giorgia Meloni in Europe? Let’s talk about opposition “

Start point?
«The limits of our political perimeter must be extended by involving businessmen and professionals. I have a precise model in my head.

Which?
«The Marks. Where the center-right has won after 50 years and the League has become the first party in the Regional Council. There we were able to create a mix that was appreciated by the voters.

League secretary Lombard Grimoldi blamed bad weather that put people off …
“Let’s not joke and do self-criticism. If we had brought back the voters who had gone to the first round, we would have won. Obviously something was missing.

What do you mean?
«I don’t just look at Lecco, I speak in general. I want a league that is more present in worlds outside of politics. We need to talk to professionals and companies. In the capitals we must be more present.

In Lombardy, almost all cities are governed by the center-left. And you?
It’s our limit. Again, we need to involve people more. Some doors of the League’s sections remained closed. Look what happened in Macerata. We win by deploying an unregistered professional. Let’s try to be less jealous of those who can help us.

You met Giorgetti after several taunts.
“We had a good chat. It is the foreign manager. With him next week we will meet with our MEPs because there are important dossiers on the table where we want to put our weight.

Is Giorgetti your antagonist or a councilor?
“They are exaggerations from the newspapers. I respect him a lot and, like Zaia, I often compare myself to him ».

On Europe, however, he seems to have different ideas from yours.
«He says, and I also believe it, that it is necessary to dialogue with everyone. So everything has its own time. It is clear that sooner or later we will return to government and by then we will have to have strong European alliances. We are working on it”.

It wouldn’t seem like it.
“There are confidential discussions at high levels.”

In the last elections the advance announced in the South was lacking.
Well, 5 years ago we didn’t really exist. We now have 8 regional councilors between Puglia and Campania ».

A little …
“Reproposing known candidates showed no signs of change.”

Giorgia Meloni has gained a visible role in Europe. What are you doing?
«We always talk about opposition. In Europe the popular and socialists rule. Outside of that, there is not much difference. However, we agree that we should weigh more. But be careful, because it is not clear where the PPE will go. If he goes to the left, I don’t care, if he moves to Orbán’s positions, I’ll start the dialogue ».

But the Hungarian leader is not a great friend of Italy.
“Why is Merkel thinking of her or our country?”

Cardinal Ruini also invites you and Meloni to dialogue with Europe.
«I read the interview with Messenger Service and I really appreciate it. We talk in Brussels every week without saying it. On the other hand, do you think you can win with 75% in Veneto without a continuous comparison with the main European chancelleries? We govern in 14 Regions out of 20, we are not Martians.

He spoke of reorganizing the League. And the center-right?
“The same is true: listen and involve. In the big city game we want to win everywhere. In tomorrow’s meeting (this morning, editor’s note) I urge you to take that step forward that it has cost us to take even in these Regionals.

Giovanni Toti went to dinner with Mara Carfagna. Did they invite you?
“I’m going to get my fiancee out. I hope they ate well and produced interesting content.

What role can Toti play?
“He has just been re-elected by popular acclamation to govern Liguria for 5 years.”

So stay in place.
“Zaia also told me that she only thinks about her Region. Both are resources.

Can you be a leader?
“Voters will decide, not restricted dinners.”

Has the former president of the Senate Marcello Pera, already one of the founders of Forza Italia, become your advisor?
“I have met him several times along with other thinking heads. We need intelligence to think about the future, as Berlusconi did in his time. Pera’s ideas are inspiring.

Which one, in particular?
«I share the idea of ​​the need for a liberal revolution. We need to release energy, exploit the potential of the Italians. And I do not claim to be alone in this endeavor. I also work with FI ».

Security decrees have changed it.
“It was a mistake, a dangerous setback because it is giving hope to 80% of asylum seekers who are not fleeing any war. We will go back to the business of illegal immigration. But here, in general, it seems to me that the left government is only interested in dismantling the good we have done.

Isn’t that legit?
“In times of viruses, it would be more appropriate to build, but these are held together only by anti-salvinism.”

Since you didn’t pay much, will you change your style now? Will it moderate the tones?
«The substance counts, not the form. Surely there are no electoral campaigns coming up now and I will have more time to dedicate myself to that construction work that I mentioned. Every week I will know a category ».

Less selfies and more meetings?
“Selfies are also requested by industrialists and artisans …”.