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President Forest, your meeting with Conte jumped because he wants to keep the government even more on the tightrope?
«Let’s not joke, we don’t play with the institutions. I simply believe that President Conte has trivially forgotten that the day he decided that Teresa Bellanova would represent Italy in Europe in a very delicate challenge: the one related to the protection of our agri-food products. Our minister could do anything except skip the European meeting. And on the other hand it would have been inexplicable to make a clarification with the premier without the head of delegation of Italia Viva. See you tomorrow morning.
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What percentage does the executive give to survive after the budget law?
«The only percentages that interest me are those of the Istat data: how much GDP falls, how much unemployment increases, how much we invest in health. If the government wants to live, rather than survive, it must take care of this. ‘
Don’t you think that if the government really falls, Conte will be the first to push part of the Five Star Movement towards the vote?
«I want to answer you without mincing the tongue and with the utmost sincerity: it may be. But these science fiction scenarios are less interesting than the economic data of a country that with the vaccine will get out of the tunnel of the pandemic, but that without the Recovery Fund will not get out of the tunnel of the economic depression. Our challenge is simple: we want to write well the plan that is used to spend European money. We do not want nightly bombings like the one we avoided last week with unknown hands trying to overthrow the government and parliament. We want seriousness. And if Conte wants to vote because he believes that he is capitalizing on his personal consent, I think it is a mistake, in the first place for him. As for the 5 Stars: half have the problem of the third quarter, the other half know that today there are more than three hundred, tomorrow it will be fifty. I have some doubts that they want to go to the vote. It is better not to open a crisis in the dark, but if I had to bet a penny, I would say that even in the case of a crisis in the dark we would not vote.
The control room for managing EU Next Generation funds is also defended by the Democratic Party with Minister Gualtieri. How does it come out?
«It seems to me that Gualtieri defends him much more than Pd. And there are more souls in the Democratic Party anyway, but the vast majority of parliamentary groups agree with us. That said, the problem is not the internal balance of a party, but the substance. It seems absurd to me that Conte, in the middle of an emergency, renounces the 36 billion for health care for ideological reasons. Also, the Month has less conditionality and costs less than the Recovery Fund. Why do we invest little in culture and tourism? I ask this city’s newspaper: does it seem possible that before the Jubilee of 2025 we are going to invest 3,000 million in tourism compared to the 35 that Merkel has allocated in 2020? The grillini have already ruined the Olympic dream in Rome, at least we do not lose the cultural and tourist centrality ».
Besides the question of recovery, what will you ask the prime minister?
“Evaluate the question of the secret services well: it is difficult to continue to hold power when there are so many open problems. I remember that thanks to an excellent work on the shore with the services, Renzi and Minniti managed to free a fishing vessel taken by the Libyans in 2015 in a few hours. eighteen Italian fishermen locked up in a Libyan prison for 107 days. Having a delegated authority to services also serves this purpose. I hope the prime minister understands the delicacy of the moment we are living in. “
Does it also exclude the need for changes in the government team and especially in the one that resides in Palazzo Chigi?
“Senator Renzi went personally to Palazzo Chigi to confront the Prime Minister and hypothesize in agreement with Secretary Zingaretti on a strengthening of the team. The president’s reaction was kind to Renzi but then very harsh in the press, beginning with an interview with the Corriere della Sera. It doesn’t seem like the best way to manage relationships for the majority. If Conte believes he has the best ministers in the world, we can only take note. The truth is that we are not asking for seats. Indeed: tomorrow in the delegation we will have Teresa and Elena who have already explained that they are ready to step aside. We are the only party that instead of asking for seats makes them available to others. But we can make an effort and talk about content. Biden’s America is not Trump’s, Europe is investing in the future, the world is changing: does the Italy that presides over the G20 have its own line or is it chasing events? This is the problem: what will Italy do when it grows, not how many ministers Italia Viva will take. Because we think in politics, not in reorganization.
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