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“Remember having signed this entry, transit and parking ban that is later canceled by the TAR, remember? Your signature is also in this episode, can you recognize your signature?” It is one of the questions that lawyer Giulia to Bongiorno asks former minister Danilo Toninelli in the courtroom of the preliminary hearing in Catania on the Gregoretti case. When asked by Matteo Salvini’s lawyer, Toninelli replied: “I don’t remember, it’s been a long time.” And the lawyer Bongiorno responds by reminding the former minister of a post published on Facebook. But also this time the answer is the same: “I don’t remember.”
In Catania’s bunker hall it is the day of the preliminary hearing on the Gregoretti case, the NGO with 131 immigrants who were prevented from disembarking in 2019. The leader of the League and then Minister of the Interior, Matteo Salvini is being investigated by “kidnapping of person”. Also called to testify other former greenish yellow government ministers: in court then Danilo Toninelli (at that time Minister of Transport) and Elisabetta Trenta (Defense). And Toninelli himself does not answer the question from Bongiorno, Salvini’s lawyer: “I don’t remember,” he says, but the documents contain the signature of the former M5 minister.
“The government’s line was to make other European states interested in the location of migrants. But each landing was a separate case,” added Toninelli. And lawyer Bongiorno, still referring to Toninelli’s ‘I don’t remember’ about the Open Arms case, recalled a post published by Toninelli on the Spanish ship. According to the defense, it is the confirmation of the shared options of the government.
“I answered all the questions that were asked of me with transparency and truth,” said the former minister when he left the bunker. “We have answered all the questions that we cannot enter due to compliance with the process in progress,” he added. “If you read the memorandum presented by the defense of Salvini, on page 37 it says who Salvini is, which in words says’ I am strong and I defend the Italian borders and I am not afraid of anything ‘while in memory it indicates the’ lack of ‘Obligation to indicate the position on the part of the Ministry of the Interior’, explains Toninelli.
“For the assignment of the safe harbor on land there is a single mandate for the Minister of the Interior who is in charge. Instead, we are witnessing an attempt to unload his responsibilities in the Ministry of Transport,” says the former minister. “An attempt by the man who claimed to defend the Italian borders, who was the government’s strong man,” he added. “It is national and international laws that explain that assistance at sea belongs to the ministry of transport, but the allocation of the port disembarkation is the sole responsibility of the Minister of the Interior “. For Toninelli, “Salvini played hard with words and then unloaded the responsibilities on others.” This is the accusation of the former minister, who added: “Despite the fact that the law says that the responsibility was his.” And again: “In that courtroom an attack is being carried out by a person who in fact claims to be a man who defended the Italian borders and the law said that he was responsible for the landings, and in the judicial proceedings he unloaded the responsibilities to others “. . Did you understand the topic? “.
“I answered all the questions that were asked of me with transparency and truth,” said the former minister when he left the bunker. “We have answered all the questions that we cannot enter due to compliance with the process in progress,” he added. “If you read the memorandum presented by the defense of Salvini, on page 37 it says who Salvini is, which in words says’ I am strong and I defend the Italian borders and I am not afraid of anything ‘while in memory it indicates the’ lack of ‘Obligation to indicate the position on the part of the Ministry of the Interior’, explains Toninelli.
“For the assignment of the safe harbor on land there is a single mandate for the Minister of the Interior who is in charge. Instead, we are witnessing an attempt to unload his responsibilities in the Ministry of Transport,” says the former minister. “An attempt by the man who claimed to defend the Italian borders, who was the government’s strong man,” he added. “It is national and international laws that explain that assistance at sea belongs to the ministry of transport, but the allocation of the port disembarkation is the sole responsibility of the Minister of the Interior “. For Toninelli, “Salvini played hard with words and then unloaded the responsibilities on others.” This is the accusation of the former minister, who added: “Despite the fact that the law says that the responsibility was his.” And again: “In that courtroom there is an attempt by a person who actually claims to be a man who defended the Italian borders and the law said that he was responsible for the landings, and in the judicial acts he discharges the responsibilities on others . Did you understand the subject? “
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