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Lorenzo Mottola
It’s still long, he explains. Attilio fontana. The light at the end of the tunnel is still far away. And only when we get out “can we do the math and see how many and what mistakes have been made.” During the entire first wave, the Lombard governor was in the dock for the management of the pandemic. “Against me they surpassed human decency,” he explains. Now, however, it is he who is launching accusations at the government, “They adopt crazy measures, we cannot change the rules every 3 weeks”.
President, a few days ago letters written by people who announced that they would violate the bans imposed by the government for Christmas arrived at the office. In particular, those who live in small towns do not understand why it is forbidden to visit relatives who live a few kilometers away.
“I agree with them. I hope that Parliament will start and correct this rule, which seems silly to me. From an epidemiological point of view, it makes no sense that it is considered safe to move for visits in the municipality itself and that it is considered dangerous to go to find someone who lives in the neighboring village. However, we still have time, as long as there is political will. I asked Primier Conte to intervene. “
In general you have defined the last decree as “lunar”, what disputes in particular?
First of all, the method did not convince me. They told us we were going to receive a copy of the Dpcm and that we would discuss it later and instead handed us a decree in the middle of the night, without giving us a chance to argue. If they had listened to us, perhaps we would have avoided obvious distortions, such as the decision to ban movement between Regions as of December 21. As I have already said, the risk is that everyone leaves the day before and the chaos that we witnessed between March 7 and 8, when the first red zones in the North were established, will be created.
In fact, there are no more tickets on the trains for 20. How could you have avoided all this?
“You didn’t have to set a deadline to move, because that’s not the problem. We must focus on dangerous behavior: in meetings, in nightlife, in crowds on public transportation. In short, the benchmark should be crowding. If there is no crowd, no problem. Instead, we condemn harmless situations and ignore others. This morning, for example, I went shopping in a supermarket in Varese. Perhaps there you have to pay more attention, because there is no longer any control at the entrance, groups of people are formed. These things should be avoided.
In other words, I would never have closed restaurants for lunch.
“If we follow the rules and avoid crowds, I would say no.”
Did dividing Italy into red and yellow zones help you?
«To serve, you need everything. It is clear that if we were forced to stay home with the army at the door, the contagion would be reduced, but our goal is to find a balance between economic and social needs and those to fight the epidemic. In meetings with the government I always repeat that we cannot change the rules every 2 or 3 weeks depending on the situation. We must not adapt to the virus, but plan for the long term and find the right and wrong paths. “
His name has appeared in many investigations. Do you think that your political membership in the League has complicated your relations with the judiciary?
“I don’t know with the judiciary, with the press for sure. Then I’ll tell you right away: we will talk about all the legal facts in progress when the investigations are closed, also out of respect for the investigators’ work.
For three months in Lombardy we have not heard of anything other than the flu vaccine. Many have not been able to find it. What happened?
“Certainly mistakes have been made, but we tried to recover and generally we succeeded. Unfortunately it is a difficult situation for the entire country, because all those who until yesterday refused to be vaccinated rightly ask for it. And pharmaceutical companies were not equipped to cope with such high demand. Consequently, there have been delays throughout Italy. ‘
Do you spend your days talking to virus experts, how long do you think it will take to get out of this crisis forever?
“It will be necessary to see when and if we can complete this vaccination campaign against Covid, because it will be necessary to cover at least 75% of the population. At that time the battle will be won. But there are still many things to understand. Whether it is a one-time vaccine or whether periodic boosters will be needed. There are many aspects that I think need to be clarified “.
It has been under surveillance since May. Tell us what happened.
“It is the period in which the media campaign against me exploded and threatening writings appeared both on social networks and on city walls.”
have you ever been afraid?
“I was more offended than anything else. Because surely we have been wrong, but we were also the first to face an emergency of this type.
Do you think you acted as a lightning rod?
“Certainly. I am convinced that in politics the confrontation can be tough. But not on a sensitive issue like this, not on the death of people, without disconcerting the truth. These are the three aspects that have deeply impressed me. They have been overcome the limits of human decency.
Do you think that the second wave showed that the problem was not the organization of the Lombardy Region?
“Yup. But from the beginning there has been so much bad faith. An example: the numbers in the province of Lodi were practically identical to those in the neighboring province of Piacenza. However, one area was described as the sky and the other as the Hell. Actually, the problem does not concern territorial organization, the prevalence of private structures over public ones, etc. The virus is stronger than all these things. Instead, they tried to exploit a drama that has affected our community. Many have questioned our health to try to take over the Lombardy region. This is the worst. “
Do you think that some experimental treatments have been neglected? We talk about plasma, hydroxychloroquine
We have tested them all, our universities and research centers have made a great contribution to research and proposals have arisen that have not yet completed the testing phase ”.
An error that does not forgive the government?
«The initial management. When they didn’t put us on alert. When the masks were sent to Wuhan and the epidemic was coming here. There were epidemic plans that have been hidden, which means that someone knew that hell was about to break out. “
Did they wake up late?
“Yes, that’s the worst. If they had told us only a month before the chaos that something big was about to happen, they would have activated us.
A mistake that you think the Region has made?
Certainly we have made many small and medium errors, but in order to draw conclusions we will have to wait for everything to finish ”.
There will also be a post-Covid, the economy will become the priority.
“The Lombardy Region is already doing things: we have funds for businesses that are forced to close. The provision was approved on November 17th and I can say that the first accreditations have already started and will soon be in the artisans’ accounts. The public can also work ”.
Have you ever thought about what you will do after your term ends?
“For now, I have other thoughts than getting over this emergency. I’ll think about it after this emergency is over.
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