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Pietro Senaldi
There is an air of closure: should we expect a Salvini from the streets or from the government?
“The League is the main political force in the country and that is why we have a duty, together with our allies, to propose constructive solutions. Unfortunately, the government never wanted to confront it seriously and we cannot stop expressing closeness to the categories that protest Conte’s bad decisions.
Beyond the obvious condemnation of all violence, do you fear a social revolt?
“Violence is never justified and justified, in fact those who have created riots in the streets have tainted the excellent reasons of the vast majority of Italians who protested civilly. Unfortunately, however, the crisis is strong and the government is not up to the task: without effective responses and real money, the country runs the risk of not holding out.
What would you do today if you were in Conte’s place?
‘I would start to accept the proposals already deposited in Parliament – for months! – from the center to the right. What is needed are vastly higher numbers than we are talking about, faster payments, less bureaucracy, and a serious plan to allow treatment at home rather than in the hospital. In this sense, the League has already reiterated its counterproposals, for example all the center-right regions have asked AIFA and the government to unblock home care protocols, but there has been no reaction from Palazzo Chigi.
Conte has excluded you from the management of the pandemic, now that the situation is dramatic, a control room is opening: isn’t he afraid of a trap to unload the blame from the government on the opposition?
“We have a duty to help the country. In the Constitution there is no control room, the place where one faces is Parliament. Conte has taken the honors and now, smelling burned, tries to share the responsibilities. It does not work like that. It begins to share the minutes of the Scientific Technical Committee with Parliament, which are now only available to the government for more than a month. How to judge the situation without having all the elements? ».
Zingaretti said that with her in the government we would have mass graves on the beach; Today the Democratic Party escapes its responsibilities trying to spill everything on Conte and the ministers?
“Zingaretti’s words are indecent and speak for themselves: according to a recent analysis by Sole24Ore, he is the least appreciated governor of Italy. Take care to recover the masks for the Lazio Region instead of insulting.
Did this government sleep in the summer or does it just have too many clueless squads?
“In recent months he has preferred parades in Roman villas … I agree with the leader of the Democratic Party in the Senate Marcucci: too many ministers are not up to the task.”
What are the executive’s failures in managing the second wave, if any?
Arrogance, confusion, lack of listening. They have just issued a Dpcm and in the next few hours they will announce another: it is one more demonstration that they do not know what fish to bring. And now they are trying to unload the responsibilities in mayors, regions and even in the opposition.
Who is the minister who is doing the worst?
«Lucía Azzolina: she spent months talking about benches with wheels and now schools are closing. And above all, it confirmed a crazy extraordinary competition that forces some 60 thousand teachers to move through Italy despite the pandemic. Also at this point we had proposed the alternative: stop the competition and stabilize the substitutes. Of course they didn’t listen to us.
We are on the eve of a new Dpcm: what does it mean?
“It means that we are in the hands of a government in total confusion. The government has also proclaimed a state of emergency in recent months without seriously addressing the issues. Some have even criticized the construction of the Fiera de Milan hospital when installing intensive care beds was the least that could be done.
Would the total closure be an escape route for the government or is it inevitable?
“Health protection must be the priority. We must work – and we are doing it – to avoid total closure because it runs the risk of being the coup de grace for our country.
At this stage, power to the Regions, Municipalities or the State?
“There must be coordination between institutions and scientists: without immediately sharing the opinion of the experts, it is difficult for the representatives of the citizens to choose the best. However, the participation of experts should not be the excuse for politicians not to decide or to decide only for theoretical reasons.
Why, if you catch it at school and on the tram, do the cinemas, gyms and restaurants close?
“Because they haven’t been able to get public transportation and are now making attempts, often unfortunate. Who compensates the businesses that have now been forced to close, after having invested in recent months to secure their spaces? ”.
Health or economy first?
“Health first, of course, but we cannot save ourselves from the virus and then starve.”
Conte has promised 100% restitution of losses to those who close: do you believe it?
“But the decree does not speak of covering 100% of the losses! As with the “relaunch decree”, there will be a fraction of the decline in turnover in April: a criterion that hurts many categories. After all, they had promised immediate payment for the layoffs and talked about firepower. We saw how it ended … No one believes Conte’s promises anymore. At this point, we ask that the Regions pay compensation directly to the damaged categories. The State authorizes the Regions to retain the money they receive from their transfers. They will surely be more efficient than INPS ”.
The famous money from Europe does not arrive: do you trust or fear that the EU will cause us problems or, worse still, that the government will not be able to present adequate spending projects?
“The money is needed immediately, while the money from the Recovery Fund could only arrive at the end of 2021. Furthermore, the terms of these loans are unknown. We had 10 billion from the SURE, but the MEPs who asked to know the interest rate opposed the state secret! With the current negative rates, it was best to issue Treasury bills immediately. And then, are we sure that it is correct for Brussels to decide what is appropriate for Italy? In 2011 he decided that we needed austerity, and the result was the closure of hospitals and the increase in public debt ”.
Is the European Union letting you down?
It is confirmed bureaucratic, slow, opaque and incapable of solving problems ”.
Should Lamorgese resign after the Nice bomber scandal?
«Absolutely yes: and now we want to know where the other 800 immigrants who disembarked together with the Nice murderer ended up. Lamorgese responds to us, instead of blaming me.
Also on Sunday there were explosive landings, not only in Sicily but also in Sardinia. What has changed with Lamorgese al Viminale compared to its time?
“They opened ports, invited NGOs to the Ministry of the Interior, restarted the hotel business. Landings in 2020 are more than 27 thousand against about 9 thousand in the same period a year ago. Malta’s much-heralded deal to redistribute immigrants to Europe has failed miserably. Indeed, a minor immigrant died after coming down from a quarantine ship: if it had happened to me in the government, all hell would have broken loose … ».
On November 20, she will go to trial again for kidnapping: is it more likely that she will be acquitted or that Conte and the other ministers will also try it with her?
“It is such a surreal accusation that I don’t want to think there could be a conviction. Of course, he had blocked the landings and the government was aligned and involved.
What would you do if you were still minister of Sicilian fishermen unjustly imprisoned in Libya for two months?
“We must bring them home, unfortunately in Libya we have lost influence to the benefit of France and Turkey. It is another responsibility of this government ”.
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