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Is the Interior Minister Luciana Lamorgese satisfied with the agreement on the regularization of agricultural and domestic workers?
With colleagues Bellanova, Catalfo and Provenzano we made the small hours to reach a shared text. Satisfaction, therefore, must be attributed to the entire government, which in the end was able to respond to all the advanced needs during our comparison.
His colleague Bellanova was even moved …
I appreciate the passion with which you worked. For my part, I believe that this provision for regularization and emergence at the same time guarantees, especially in the current context of emergency, the dignity of people, health security, the protection of legality and the needs of the labor market.
How did you overcome the fears and resistance of the Five Stars?
These days, including Sundays, we work until late at night and I am very satisfied because the Ministry of the Interior has been able to be a point of reference for the other ministers, and together we have been able to compose all the pieces of the puzzle. Sometimes, when politics seems to be stuck in irreconcilable positions, knowing how to listen and evaluate everyone’s reasons can solve situations that apparently have no way out. And as a technician who has the honor of serving as Minister of the Interior, I think I have been able to help translate the requests made by all members into a shared standard.
Have you ever feared that political skirmishes between majority parties could blow up the deal?
In my long experience as prefect, I had to manage numerous and complicated comparison tables, learning that the spaces for a solution satisfying for all do not end even when the tones are leveled.
Is it not that you too have succumbed to the old logic of amnesties?
It is not an “amnesty”, but an emergency and regularization procedure that, like what other governments have done, lights a beacon on labor relations and irregular immigrants about whom, now, we can have personal, social security data and health. Including tools to manage the emergency of Covid-19 even in social contexts that are difficult to control.
They’ll charge you with a sponge hit on illegal immigration.
Those who speak of “sponge blows” want to believe that this emergency and regularization procedure affects all employers and all workers without distinction, but this is not the case. Before acceptance of the application, careful checks are carried out on pending convictions and criminal proceedings.
What are the limits of the criminal shield for employers and self-reported workers?
There is a double filter that should reassure everyone. The first: the suspension of criminal proceedings for the employer, excluding, without exception, the most serious crimes, such as helping and encouraging illegal immigration, trafficking in prostitution and exploitation of minors, reduction or maintenance in slavery , illicit brokerage and labor exploitation. The second: a foreign worker who has been issued an expulsion order for reasons of public order or state security cannot be admitted to regularization, or if he has been convicted of crimes against personal liberty, drugs and immigration aid. illegal. .
Is there no risk that new foreigners are illegally recruited and can be regularized for having worked in Italy?
To avoid this, we have foreseen the aggravation of the sanctions to the employer that hires and employs labor through illegal brokerage, exploiting the workers and taking advantage of their state of need. In other words: now those who use hired staff to risk hiring those who, perhaps, have just obtained a temporary residence permit thanks to this regularization and emergency procedure are at greater risk.
How many people will be able to go out thanks to this provision?
The number of applications could be halfway between the regularization of the Berlusconi government, around 300 thousand applications, and that of the Monti government, around 100,000. And it is expected that the costs incurred by the Ministry of the Interior will be covered by the income derived from the flat-rate contributions requested by the employer and the worker.
What signs have emerged from the monitoring you asked prefects about the risks of mob infiltration in the Covid economic crisis?
Unfortunately, the high risk and the prefects have already started, following my directive, a specific preventive action in the territories. Attempts at criminal infiltration affect both the production sectors that continued to operate during the first phase of the emergency, and those that suffered losses due to the emergency shutdown. Especially small entrepreneurs who run out of liquidity could expose themselves to useless tentacles.
But wouldn’t the simplification of the bureaucracy that slows down government aid be a way of preventing inconveniences and possible social tensions, even before public order measures?
The rapid disbursement of enormous resources for families and companies is essential. Delays, in fact, run the risk of fostering criminal associations that can make your help available immediately. therefore, it is necessary to avoid unnecessary procedural inconvenience. But this does not mean that controls cannot be relinquished. The protocol of the Ministry of the Interior and the Ministry of Economy with SACE (Cassa Depositi e Prestiti, ed), which combines speed of access and rigorous evaluation of the existence of criminal infiltrations, by revoking payment in the event of the adoption of a ban against the mafia. A model now implemented by Article 28 of the new approved law decree that governs access to the grant.
May 14, 2020 (change May 14, 2020 | 08:42)
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