It was revealed that the Rizal Ramli story was often prevented by Jusuf Kalla from becoming a Minister in the era of SBY and Jokowi.

JAKARTA, KOMPAS TV – Senior economist Rizal Ramli recounted his experience when he was about to serve as minister to several presidents in Indonesia.

Rizal revealed that he was often approached by Vice President Jusuf Kalla to become a minister in the era of President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono (SBY) and President Joko Widodo (Jokowi).

Rizal Ramli revealed that his story was intercepted by Jusuf Kalla several times to become a minister at the Karni Ilyas Club event that was broadcast on the YouTube channel.

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Initially, Rizal Ramli said that he was once asked to help complete the Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) project that had been stalled for a long time.

At that time, Jokowi, who was still the governor of DKI Jakarta, came to his office to ask for help in communicating with Japan.

A week after Jokowi called for help, Rizal Ramli met with the MRT boss Jokowi was referring to in Tokyo, Japan.