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Rizal Ramli calls Jokowi, always called SBY, the mastermind of the action of defending Islam (YouTube Karni Ilyas Official).
“I said Mas Jokowi, I really know SBY. He’s a stingy king bro, if 5 billion is fine, if 100 billion is definitely a lie and I’m not laughing.”
SuaraJatim.id – Rizal Ramli, former coordinating minister for Maritime Affairs, outlined his conversation with President Jokowi about the mastermind behind protests 411 and 212 to defend Islam.
Rizal Ramli revealed that Jokowi’s party had accused Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono of being the mastermind behind the demonstration that was seen as undermining his government.
The statement was made by Rizal Ramli in a video chat with Karni Ilyas uploaded through the YouTube channel. Karni Ilyas Club, Friday (10/23/2020).
On this occasion, Rizal Ramli recounted his meeting with Jokowi during the demonstrations of November 4, 2016 or 411 and the demonstrations of December 2, 2016 or 212.
“So two weeks before 212, Pak Jokowi asked me who was behind shares 411 and 212.” Rizal Ramli said, imitating Jokowi.
“Jokowi said, it seems that according to intelligence reports, the mass will decrease by 2-3 million. Surely there is a distributor. Correct. According to intelligence there is a distributor,” he added.
When asked by Rizal Ramli who was behind the rally, Jokowi clearly said that SBY was the mastermind behind it.
According to information provided by Rizal Ramli, Jokowi said that SBY spent 100 billion to support the action.
“SBY, finish 100 billion, “Rizal Ramli said, imitating Jokowi’s words.
“Who else is the source? Jokowi said Pak Luhut called SBY the distributor outside Rp. 100 billion, “he continued.
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