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Suara.com – Former Maritime Affairs Coordinating Minister Rizal Ramli spoke to expose his conversation with President Jokowi about the mastermind behind the 411 and 212 protests to defend Islam.
Rizal Ramli revealed that Jokowi’s party had accused Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono of being the mastermind behind the demonstration that was seen as undermining his government.
The statement was made by Rizal Ramli in a video chat with Karni Ilyas uploaded through the channel. YouTube Karni Ilyas Club, Friday (10/23/2020).
On this occasion, Rizal Ramli recounted his meeting with Jokowi during the demonstrations of November 4, 2016 or 411 and the demonstrations of December 2, 2016 or 212.
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“So two weeks before 212, Pak Jokowi asked me who was behind shares 411 and 212.” Rizal Ramli said, imitating Jokowi.
“Jokowi said that it appears that according to this intelligence report, the masses will be reduced by 2-3 million. There must be a distributor. Right. According to Intel, there is a distributor,” he added.
When asked by Rizal Ramli who was behind the rally, Jokowi clearly said that SBY was the mastermind behind it.
According to information provided by Rizal Ramli, Jokowi said that SBY spent 100 billion to support the action.
“SBY, finish 100 billion, “Rizal Ramli said, imitating Jokowi’s words.
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“Who else is the source? Jokowi said Pak Luhut called SBY the distributor outside Rp. 100 billion, “he continued.
However, Rizal Ramli at the time firmly admitted that he was not sure whether SBY was the mastermind behind the Islamic defense action. The reason is that Rizal Ramli said that he knew SBY as a stingy person.
Hearing this response, Rizal Ramli admitted that they made him laugh out loud.
“I said Mas Jokowi, I really know SBY. He’s a stingy king, if 5 billion is fine, 10 billion is still possible, 20 billion is not possible, if 100 billion is definitely a lie and I’m not laughing.” Rizal Ramli said. .
Furthermore, Rizal Ramli also revealed that perhaps Jokowi was still using reason to scapegoat SBY in the action against the Omnibus Job Creation Act, which had recently been rampant.
However, Rizal Ramli mentioned the possibility that the actions that occurred in 2016 and recently have been motivated by organic movements in society.
“These people in his village, his savings, he used to go to Jakarta. He asked the rich to find a bus and so on,” Rizal Ramli said.
“Why? Yes, because they are angry with Muslims in the corner continue, “he continued.
On this occasion, Rizal Ramli also admitted that Jokowi asked him a question about the reasons why Muslims protest. The reason is that Jokowi feels that he has never bothered Muslims.
Not only that, Jokowi also said that he had donated a number of grants to Islamic boarding schools.
However, Rizal Ramli at the time responded with sharp sarcasm. Rizal Ramli said that his help to pesantren and all kinds would be useless.
The reason is that Rizal Ramli assesses that the people around the Jokowi government continue to harass the lives of Muslims.
“It is free if the other hand is around the other Jokowi, whose Islamophobia continues to hit Muslims,” said Rizal Ramli.
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