Experts say bunch immune coronavirus strategy could be ‘dangerous’


Such an approach – the same as that followed in Sweden – would mean that many people across the country would have to be sick with coronavirus to boost natural immunity in communities. As the virus spreads and makes people sick, many die in the process.

Atlas explicitly denied that it was pushing a bunch of immunization strategies, but the administration official told CNN that the policies that Atlas has pushed are in the vein of a bunch of immunization strategies.

Atlas rejected the need for comprehensive community testing, arguing that the administration should focus almost exclusively on the safety and testing of the elderly, while pushing for the rest of the economy to return to normal.

“Everything they say and do draws attention to animal husbandry immunity,” the senior administration official said.

Emergency therapist and CNN medical analyst Dr. Le. Lena Wayne said on Monday that about 2 million Americans could die trying to gain flock immunity from the coronavirus.

Wayne told CNN’s Brianna Killer that she has “huge concerns” about a bunch of immune approaches and doesn’t know much about how long immunity to Covid-19 can last.

“If we wait until we have 0% to 0% of people, we’re talking about 200 million plus Americans – and with a 1% mortality rate, let’s say it’s 2 million Americans who will die. “It’s an preventable death of our loved ones that we just can’t let happen under our watch,” Wayne said.

What is bunch immunity and why some think it could end the coronavirus epidemic
Maria Van Kerkov, Technical Lead for WHO Coronavirus Response, Said during a media briefing in Geneva last week It discusses “herd immunity” especially in the context of vaccination – not as an epidemic response.

“Usually when we talk about herd immunity, we talk about how many people need to be vaccinated against the virus, the pathogen, so that the transmission doesn’t happen or it’s very difficult for the virus or the pathogen. “To transition between people,” Van Kerkov said.

“It’s very dangerous if we just think about the immune system in the natural sense of letting the virus run,” he said. “It means a lot of people are infected, a lot of people will need to be hospitalized and a lot of people will die.”

Sweden’s ‘mob immunity’ efforts

Herd immunity refers to the specific threshold of protection a particular population or community has to stand up against a contracted disease – and that may come from protection or pre-vaccination protection, says Dr. Amesh Adalaja, senior scholar Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security on Monday told CNN.

Adalaja added, “If a mob exceeds the immune threshold, new people can be infected with the contagious disease and it is difficult to maintain transmission in that community.” It does not appear that the immune threshold of cannabis was exceeded from there, we can say. ”

Sweden is still not close to ‘mob immunity’, though it has not gone into lockdown
Unlike most countries, Sweden did not go into lockout when the epidemic spread across Europe in early spring. Instead, most bars, schools, restaurants and salons, despite being open, emphasized personal responsibility.
Despite the milder approach, only 7.3% of people in Stockholm developed the antibodies needed to fight the disease in late April – well below the 70-90% needed for herd immunity.

There are now more than 5,800 deaths from Covid-19 in the country, which is about 576.38 deaths per million people. The last Covid-19 casualties were reported on 23 fat gusts.

The first half of 2020 saw the highest number of deaths in Sweden in 150 years

The number of deaths per million in the country is much higher than some of its closest neighbors, with similarly low population densities, with Denmark at 107.73, Finland at 60.46, Norway at 48.7 or Estonia at 48.25.

“While the majority of the population is immune to infectious diseases, indirect protection – mob immunity – works against those who are more immune to people who are not immune,” said Eric Orloski of the university. College Lodge London, and London-based retired physician David. David Goldsmith wrote in a commentary published in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine in the middle of the Journal Gust.

“It is possible that some of these inter-Scandinavian differences in mortality outcomes may also have been caused by the failure to protect the most susceptible Swedes from viral infections (40% – 50% of their cases have been in elderly nursing home residents) of the population),” Oroloski and Goldsmith wrote. “But like other aspects of this unprecedented crisis, many lasting effects need more time to be understood.”

As the decline, the U.S.  Covid-19 cases are on the rise again in nursing homes

Much of the criticism surrounding Sweden’s response has focused on mortality in care homes.

“It’s not clear how to completely differentiate people at risk of serious disease from people with mild disease in general,” Adalja said.

“The biggest problem I have with the Swedish approach is that if you’re going to do that – if we’re really going to try animal husbandry immunity – you really need to strengthen your nursing homes and you really need to do that.” Some testing and tracing. And loneliness, “he said.” If herd immunity does not include testing, tracing and isolation, it is very difficult to protect vulnerable populations. “

Sweden’s chief epidemiologist Tenders Tagnell acknowledged in June that the country’s public health agency “did not know that such a large death would be so likely to spread the disease to elderly care homes.”

But he told the Swedish newspaper Dagans Nhiater: “There are things we could have done better but in general I think Sweden has chosen the right path.”

Sweden defends coronavirus, but admits failure to protect elderly
A top official of the World Health Organization on Monday praised Sweden’s response to the coronavirus epidemic, saying its approach had been misused. “There is a misconception that control measures are not being implemented by Sweden,” said Dr Mike Rhean, executive director of the WHO’s health emergency program.
“The government has tried to rely on individuals and communities to follow the government’s advice and it has tried to avoid mandatory lockdowns, mandatory release of individuals,” RJ said. During a media briefing in GenevaAdding to this, histor is based on a very high level of trust between the Swedish government and its people.

“In Sweden, Anders Tagnell and the team there have done well,” Ryan said.

“This is the way the Swedish people and the Swedish government approach. In Sweden it is a social contract.” “No one has gone through this epidemic with a perfect strategy.”

‘Instead of pushing for mob immunity, U.S.

U.S. Dr. Scott Gottlieb, a former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, wrote an opinion for the Street Journal on Sunday that followed the Swedish model and came up against the idea of ​​the United States.
The U.S. is one of the few countries in the world to control the coronavirus epidemic.  And the U.K.

“Swedish government officials initially demanded that the virus remain largely inadvisable to the general population as measures to protect the elderly. The Swedish view was that the country could reach mob immunity without jeopardizing the economy. But would misrepresent Sweden as an enlightened model.” Important parts, ”Gottlieb wrote in A-P-Ed.

“Many Swedes have been pushed back from normal activities, yet even young and middle-aged people shelter themselves from the infection. The country’s North Carolina-sized population experienced 5,821 Kovid deaths.” The country’s economic recovery is among the worst in its region. , “Gottlieb wrote in part.” In order to cope with a dangerous epidemic, it is necessary to spread as much as possible. “

He notes wearing a mask, being tested for Covid-19, and tracing the contact of people who help.

“Sweden’s attempt to create a ‘mob immunity’ has failed miserably and we have certainly not tried to imitate it in the United States,” said Dr. Howard Koh, a former assistant secretary of state for health at Health and a professor at Harvard TH Chan. The School of Public Health said in an email to CNN on Monday.

What’s more, the pressure for ‘animal immunity’ will fully extend the months of work done so far by the U.S. in its efforts to contain the virus, Koh said in part. “Instead of pushing the mob’s immune system, the U.S. must double down on the public health equipment at our disposal – including wearing universal masks, conducting extensive testing and contracting – until vaccines and more effective treatments are available. . “

CNN’s Pamela Kirkland, Jeremy Diamond, Lure Ren Muscarenhas, Hillary McCagan, Emma Reynolds and Vasco Kotovio contributed to the report.

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